1930 Skyking

   Hi Folks,

   Can anyone tell me what is the name of a Skyking with the case colors reversed?

This watch has a Gold body with White Bezel trim, it looks exactly or very close to a Skyking.

Movement is a 10AN with Omega, Serial# 639160, dial has six-sided inner track.

Case has Jan. 11 1927 Pat Date.

Yes I know I need to load Photos but last couple of times it didn't work, any help is appreciated.

         Thanks, Jim

mybulova_admin
Posted June 9, 2013 - 5:11am

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Jim, please send the photos to admin@mybulova.com and I will upload them for you.

I'm not sure we have a deffinitive answer other than to say that our current thinking is that it's still a Sky King variant, but knowing Bulova I would not be supprised in the least if it was identified as yet another model, once an advert presents itself.

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William Smith
Posted June 13, 2013 - 8:15pm

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Jim I agree w/ Admin.  I think some of us decided the reversed color is probably still the Sky King.

Were you able to provide photos to Admin?  We would love to have the reverse color example entered in the watch database....please and thanks.

Geoff Baker
Posted June 14, 2013 - 5:39am

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Will - we already do.....

.....but we'd LOVE to see yours Jim

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William Smith
Posted June 14, 2013 - 6:29pm

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yep....I forgot about these.  Another example would be nice, like you say.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted June 14, 2013 - 6:20am

Is there an ad that shows this Case as the 'SKY KING' ?

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alien Ant
Posted June 14, 2013 - 11:05am

found these on mr bakers 1931 sky king posted. All the ads are 1931 or after,

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alien Ant
Posted June 14, 2013 - 12:49pm

Is the dial lumed or raised gold numbers? this may possibly have a bearing on the reversing of the colours on the watch case as mr bakers has the gold numbers on his reversed coloured watch.

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 1:19pm

The ad below is the only genuine Bulova ad I see from the group above, the rest newspaper clippings published by who knows who.

The Case horizontals in the Bulova ad have obvious chevrons which the actual Watches shown do not.

Thanks for the input atom Ant.

We see the same advertising dilemma put forth with the 1931 'LONE EAGLE'

One Case appears to have the known ball and Diamond engraving the other has one bezel vertical with the squiggly engraving pattern and the other with the XX type.

I don't think any of the Watches shown are 'SKY KING'

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alien Ant
Posted June 14, 2013 - 1:30pm

So none of the newspaper ads count? i find that one hard to swallow as so many watches have newspaper ads to identify them.

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 4:44pm

1934

Case with Chevrons.

If the XX pattern Case without Chevrons is post 1934 why are all the examples in the database dated 1930 and prior?

The 'SKY KING' ads begin in 1930

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alien Ant
Posted June 14, 2013 - 6:19pm

?

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alien Ant
Posted June 14, 2013 - 6:44pm

There are lone eagle two ads long after 1930 but the lone eagle three came in in 1931. Those x case sky kings start in 1931 and after, if I read them right and the first type are all before 1931.
if i saw a chevron case dated after 1930 i would probably change my mind though.

diamondjim
Posted June 15, 2013 - 4:15pm

 I'm sorry for the late response, I did send Admin the photos same day as original post.

I did figure out how to load photos so I'll take new ones and post them later tonite.

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Posted June 15, 2013 - 4:58pm

1930 'SKY KING'

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/1930-AD10a-%28Oct-25%29.jpg

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/1930-AD8.jpg

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-13-Dec-1930-1.jpg

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1930-2.jpg

1931 'SKY KING'

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1931-1.jpg

1932 'SKY KING'

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1932-1.jpg

1934 'SKY KING'

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1934-4.jpg

 

All Bulova ads Dated 1930 - 1934 show a 'SKY KING' with a chevron engraved Case.

The newspaper ads depicting a non chevronned Case are Dated 1934 and beyond (I find it hard to beleive this Case type was available post 1934 as Case designs were sleeker in nature by this time).

All database examples of a XX patterened non chevron Case are Dated prior to 1931.

It just doesn't add up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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alien Ant
Posted June 15, 2013 - 6:53pm

These are the sky kings with XX pattern non chevron cases and all are from 1931 and not prior as the guy says above.

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-630

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-647

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-1198

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-2888

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-4184

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-4915

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-5549

all the chevron cases with the rosebud engraving round the bezel date to 1930 i am not putting them all here but there are 7 of them go look, with two from 1931 that look like XX but not positive.

 the newspaper daverts all date to 1932 if you right click on them except this one

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1931-1.jpg

this one has the date of june 1932 in the post with it

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1931-sky-king-5549?page=1

 

seemsyou made a mistake with the paper ad dates and the XX watch dates.

it looks like the ads here from meyers in 1932 and 1934 are selling old stock just like other ads here showing older models.

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1932-1.jpg

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/bulova-ad-1934-4.jpg

1933 ad showing the lone eagle mark two three years after the mark three came out.

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/uploaded_photos/user2196/1933.jpg

1932 ad showing the same mark two lone eagle two years after the mark three

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/uploaded_photos/user2196/POPMECH%20OCT32.jpg

that explains the 1932 and 1933 sky king ads.

if you look at the info in the right way it sure ads up OK, all the chevron cases with rosebud bezel engraving are from 1930 and all the non chevron case with xx engraved are after 1930

if you think im wrong or out of line tell me i can shut up.

mybulova_admin
Posted June 15, 2013 - 11:41pm

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What the adverts tell us and what is reality are often two different things. We should all know that by now. Until otherwise proven with an advert showing otherwise these all are Sky Kings.

Ealiest advert I have seen is the 17th October 1930, has anyone seen an earlier reference?

The dial change over from lumed numbers to applied raise gold numbers looked to have happened sometime in 1931.

 

OldTicker
Posted June 16, 2013 - 1:16am

I also have one of these non-chevron Sky Kings on hand...Not in the database yet, but will enter it.

Just because it happens to be a newspaper ad verses a Mag ad, I won't discount it...thats a piss poor excuse.

There are too many of these "non Chevron" Sky Kings out there not to be considered as 2 tick "Sky King" watches.

 

diamondjim
Posted June 17, 2013 - 11:42am

   I just posted this watch to the "Add a Watch" because I was having trouble posting photos in a response.

Sorry if I caused any problems doing this.