Arnold, Alexander, Stamford or something else?

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Submitted by el-ooose on February 18, 2011 - 4:38am

I don't think this is an Arnold but what else? Stamford and Alexander both very similar but without the engraved case.

1944, 15 jewel 10AK, Stainless back. Any thoughts anyone?

 

Here is one of the movment! Interesting to note that the 1944 triangle  overstamps  a 1936 square. Maybe just an error. I'll try to get a better picture.

WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 18, 2011 - 5:09am

Philip & Co,

 

The first noted mention of the "Arnold,"  is in the BB crystal catalog, 1942... First known mention of the Alexander," in the 1947 SUC catalog... BOTH take the same crystals...

GS
 
SUC
 
BB
 
PERFIT

 

CMT346-30
 
RMU147-22
 
CMT2398 203
 
MB239/6 204

 

An "Aviator" (second one, from the early 40s) and the "Stamford" take the following crystals:

CMT293
 
MU103-15, RMU98
 
CMT2205 198
 

HMB220/3 198

 

The "198" width "Broadcaster" is clearly marked on (later, molded style) G-S crystal packages... I have yet to see an illustration+ of the '40s Broadcaster, nor the Alexander model...  with the Tonneau bezel openings/dials/and I presume, cases?

SURE that movement is a '44 vintage?? Seems more like a '45+ release???

  

Best :-)  Scott

mybulova_admin
Posted February 18, 2011 - 5:07am

All the Arnolds I find seem to be fully engraved down the sides. Anyone else concur?

WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 19, 2011 - 9:24am

 

Stephen,  the engraving on the KNOWN 46- 50 (+?) Arnold is quite DIFFERENT... However I do see mention of it in the '42 BB catalog... This designs' case and engraving detail, is FAR less common than the '48 "Arnold," pictured here/above...

 

:-)  Scott

bourg01
Posted February 18, 2011 - 8:06am

Clearly not an Arnold. Having both side by side my vote would have be for the Stamford but mine's not engraved and they were advertised as having a 17 J engine.

Then I checked the Stamford I have, dated 1944-45 with a 15J 10BC engine.

So now, my Arnold, case and movement date 1951 and it's also got the 15J 10BC movement

I'd love to add a picture of them side by side for you but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 19, 2011 - 9:27am

 Hey Shawn,

 

While I'm somewhat pexplexed about the mention of BOTH a '42 "Arnold" (along with a like crystaled, post WWII) and a 1946- 51 version (?!) this watch is either an "Alexander," or maybe even some other model (not mentioned in a half dozen+ 40s crystal catalogs?) but definitely isn't the same size as either the Stamford, or the Aviator (no. 2?) as I spelled out above, with most known crystal specs...

I have been mistaken on one or two so far (of 60- 80?) but my bet is that this is most likely, the Alex???

SEE the 15 Jewel, 10AK (Circa 1944?) hereafter: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/EXCELLENT-BULOVA-ALEXANDER-10K-GOLD-VINTAGE-WRIST-WATCH-/260739318351?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item3cb546424f

 

Best :-)  Scott   

bourg01
Posted February 18, 2011 - 8:08am

Clearly not an Arnold. Having both side by side my vote would have be for the Stamford but mine's not engraved and they were advertised as having a 17 J engine.

Then I checked the Stamford I have, dated 1944-45 with a 15J 10BC engine.

So now, my Arnold, case and movement date 1951 and it's also got the 15J 10BC movement

I'd love to add a picture of them side by side for you but I haven't figured out how to do that yet.

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