unworking unidentified bulova

Submitted by ruby77 on April 13, 2011 - 6:32pm

I have recently purchased a bulova as i am fascinated with old watches.unfortunately I have no idea what model it is i have tried looking for the date codes but havent found anything other than a set of long digits  on the back casing with a set of four numbers below them.no letters.it has a very old brown leather strap pale watch face with dark hands and the words 'bulova' at the top and the words 'longchamp' and 'swiss' at the bottom.a glass bezel with a gold coloured case with a stainless steel back it also has a blue cabochon winder/crown.i cant find another one similar so really stuck as to what make model it is can anyone help please?

the person who sold me it said it was working but it wont wind although i am able to alter the hands it just doesnt tick.my nearest town doesnt have a watchmaker or a good jeweller who can help me can anyone give me an idea why it wont wind on etc?

i dont mind if its not worth any money or collectable i just really like this watch and would love to fix it

thanks in advance

NOVA
Posted April 13, 2011 - 6:39pm

Can you post some pictures?  Pics of the front of the watch, as well as the inside and outside of the case back would be helpful.

Have you opened the watch and looked at the movement?  If so, tell us what you found.

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 6:51pm

yes will take some and pop them up tomorrow. the strap is filthy and cracked not overly happy about that and the casing is quite dirty inside however the steel back was slightly off so i loosened it and had a look at the movement and it  seems clean and nothing seems broken but hard to tell as im not sure what im looking for.im a novice.

there are rubies on the back of the movement.i think it might say 17 jewels but its tiny and i cant really make out the words

sorry im pretty useless at this stuff.will take a pic and hopefully it will help discover what kind it is

NOVA
Posted April 13, 2011 - 6:57pm

In reply to by ruby77

Do you have a magnifying glass?  If so, use that and write down everything you see on the movement.  In addition to the jewel count, you should see a number along with one or more characters, like "6AF", for example.  Also, you may see a little symbol, such as a circle, or an arrow, or a "T".  That's the date code, if your watch was made before 1950.  If a later model, you should see two numbers, such as 51 for 1951.  Write it all down and let us know what you've got.

OldTicker
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:00pm

In reply to by NOVA

1950 and later will have a letter and a number, example, L1=1951 M2=1962 N3=1973

NOVA
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:02pm

In reply to by OldTicker

Oh, yeah, right.  Sorry for the confusion.  Of course, if it's late 40s, it could have two numbers.  Haha!  Let's really make this hard!

Just write it down, and we'll help ya figure it out.

OldTicker
Posted April 13, 2011 - 6:51pm

Does it look like this??

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 6:58pm

no its got an oval face rather than round face.

having camera problems this evening trying to get them fix asap so i can get a photo up :)

OldTicker
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:03pm

Bulova made a "Longchamp" but I think it is late 60' early 70's when they used the name, Is it a Gent's size or a Ladies size?

NOVA
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:19pm

In reply to by OldTicker

Yep, a Google search turned up a lot of 70s models.  Like this one.  But that would mean that it should have a very visible M + number or N + number on the back of the case.

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:24pm

In reply to by NOVA

its got roman numerals if that helps and an off white face, feels like paper on the face

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:13pm

4-745866 and beneath that 8252 on the back of the stainless back-on the outside on the inside it says bulova and a very very small mark maybe a letter im unsure

i cant see any marks or other letters other than 'swiss' '17 jewels' but using a rubbish magnifying glass so might be something else.

 

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:14pm

ladies size

OldTicker
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:28pm

When you get your camera working, add a couple pictures, and use the Macro setting when taking pictures close up if your camera has it.

A watch that does not wind can be many things from a simple cleaning/oiling to something broken and needing replacement.

There are a few excellent Watchmakers that use this site from Canada,  USA, and Great Britain that I would trust to send my watch to for repair/restore if you decide to do that.

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:40pm

In reply to by OldTicker

will do :) have put up a picture from my android but its not very good.

i have been told there is a watchmaker in glasgow and one in edinburgh but i dont know them so i would be reluctant to take it there.

im bit worried why i cant find the letters etc on it and also why i cant find a watch that looks the same

my other bulova ive been able to find several images of and was made in 1967 so bit worried why this one i cant seem to find another the same or similar :/

NOVA
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:30pm

Well, I think it's safe to say that your watch isn't one that we have in our database.  Further--someone correct me if I'm wrong--but I also don't believe that any of our ads depict your watch.  So, with additional information, we can probably help you pinpoint the year it was made, but we're not likely to come up with a model name.  Have you tried a Google search to see what you can find?  There appear to be a lot of these watches available on the Web, so you might get lucky and spot yours.

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:44pm

In reply to by NOVA

yes tried to google it but didnt come up with anything.bit worried as i said in my reply to @ old ticker that im worried that i havent been able to find another watch the same or similar whereas my other bulova was easy to find and was made in 1967 and plenty of images on the web.

ruby77
Posted April 14, 2011 - 4:09pm

In reply to by NOVA

i havent been able to find anything that looks like my watch on the net and havent found anymore info im going to try again with the mag glass tonight and see if i can see any other marks.i know the pics arent very clear but thought maybe somebody on here may have an idea but havent anything as yet.:)

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:34pm

sorry about the photo had to try and upload from my android and not a great picture hope this gives an idea as to the watch and will try and get a better pic up tomorrow

ruby77
Posted April 13, 2011 - 7:47pm

geezer_D
Posted April 14, 2011 - 5:08pm

 Found one similar on a Romanian site.  Notice the sapphire on the crown.  Era approx 1980s.

ruby77
Posted April 14, 2011 - 6:03pm

In reply to by geezer_D

thanks :) yes while i was off line i had another look at that movement and found N8 which i think is 1978.thanks for looking for me and to everyone for their help :)

just need to get it fixed now.it seems to work ok without the back on it but as soon as i replace the back it stops working.very odd.

ruby77
Posted April 14, 2011 - 6:00pm

I have managed to locate a date code its N8 which i think is 1978? ive also found out (i have three bulovas and a very old helbros amongst others) that my other bulova is a spaceview so at least now i know what watches are what.as i said before not interested in the monetary value just really love old watches especially Bulova :)

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted April 14, 2011 - 6:00pm

If the Dial states Bulova Longchamp then it is a Bulova Longchamp.

The long string of numbers on the Caseback would be the Watches seriel number followed by the 4 digit model number.

The Watch possibly will not wind due to being Battery operated Quartz?

Geezer looks spot on with the 1980's.

ruby77
Posted April 14, 2011 - 6:20pm

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

Thanks

its a hand wound mechanism just doesnt work with the back on for some reason??

its N8 (1978 i think)

OldTicker
Posted April 14, 2011 - 6:57pm

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

The Longchamp seems to be a watch that was not sold in the USA, most that I find on the bay are from other country's.

I think I read somewhere that all Quartz movements had to be marked on the dial or caseback, this one is not and they made manual winders in the early 70's.

 

geezer_D
Posted April 14, 2011 - 9:13pm

 It is a mechanical movement, 11ANC,  Ranfft lists it as a 23 jewel.

mybulova_admin
Posted April 14, 2011 - 9:22pm

I've added 'Longchamp' to model drop down list so you can official name it such.

Is the back case screw on or snap on?