any one recognise this watch please

Randy's picture
Posted February 18, 2011 - 10:21am

Possibly an Ambassador from about 1938 I think. Check out the vintage adds on this website to see if it looks like what I'm seeing...Nice find, enjoy !

el tel
Posted February 18, 2011 - 11:20am

not found it listed anywhere , case number is 1014300 and if the movement is a 10Ax which  dates it to around 1940 . Does not have a crystal which measures around 20cm by 15cm and has no strap either. have not opened it up yet , will leave that to a specialist. Thanks for the feedback.


el tel
Posted February 19, 2011 - 3:23am

can any one point me in the right direction where I can find a crystal for this watch please



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Wayne Hanley
Posted February 19, 2011 - 3:36am


William is one of our members. Consider yourself pointed!


el tel
Posted February 19, 2011 - 1:08pm

Thanks for the feedback again , still struggling to identify the model. The stepped sides look like some other models but the ribbed edges appear to be unique. Have checked all the catalogues on this website and watches but I am no nearer to finding the model type.


shooter144's picture
Posted February 19, 2011 - 1:33pm

I hope William is bidding on that lot of 1300 plus vintage crystals on the bay....and wins

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Wayne Hanley
Posted February 19, 2011 - 2:28pm

el tel

The only way to get information you need for identification is to open the watch & document all stamped info. Inside the back case will help identify the case. Same with the movement. Until then it's all speculation. Try this at home!

How to Open Your Bulova

1. Hold the watch in one hand, dial down.
2. Look for a little tab on either end of the long end.
3. Using a penknife, place the blade across both lugs.
4. Give a slight twist using the lugs for leverage, Back case will come off.
5. Log all the stamped labels on the movement.
6. Look for a date symbol, such as a square, an omega, a shield, a straight shield.
7. The caliber movement should be in a rectangular box with four digits, such as 10AE.
6. Log any stamped info from the inside of the back case.
7. Snap it back together.
el tel
Posted February 27, 2011 - 2:04pm

To  William at  -   Can you assist me with a crystal for this unidentified Bulova .  The aperture for the crystal is 20cm by 15cm and I am hoping that this is a standard size.  I measured the opening with a ruler.   Thanks



Posted February 27, 2011 - 3:27pm


I am guessing you mean MM :).... I will take a look through my crystal catalogues but it really needs to be measured with some digital calipers as crystals go to .00 of a mm.

The nearest i can see with a quick look in the GS catalog is the X655 crystal measuring 19.9 x 14.3mm as of yet i can not see an associated name but will check othe catalogs in a while when i am able to's picture
Posted March 3, 2011 - 8:46pm

Hi there,


The crystals are spec'd to 1/100 of a mm... That being said, getting within .25 or .5mm will often suffice... Get yourself a pair of "digital calipers" on eBay, etc. for around $20.USD delivered, then you can spec the proportions for crystals, in general... (Even rounds!)

Message me for more info. Most crystals are priced at only $14.95 for (common, 2+ in stock) glass... And only $9.95 for most acrylics... plus either $2.50 to deliver in the Continental US... Or $5.00 abroad... 

This one appears to take a Perfit: C206/1 x 158? And I suspect therefore a W-C A205 or 206 x 157/8/ or 9? Or a BB: X2050s- 2060s series, by the same width? Or the G-S "Senator" acrylics may also fit? (G-S X706, pre 1939.)

And this is presuming that the bezel ledge (i.e. where the crystal seats) appears to be flat, around BOTH sides of the perimeter??? (And therefore the crystal should NOT curve lengthwise, or it's rather an "MX" in BB, or G-S, for instance...) An "X" denotes flat edges in BOTH directions... Whereas an 'MX" (a "Military" style rectangle + "X" shape) curves lengthwise, and may or may not be flat top and bottom? (i.e. "width" wise...) 


Best :-) W. Scott T.

P.S. also see:  (I will soon be listing another 30+ more Bulova crystals...)

el tel
Posted March 3, 2011 - 2:35pm

I have measured the size for the crystal , ther is a lip on the inside of the case and I am not sure which is the correct one to measure. The smaller measurement is 19.8 cm by  14.8 cm and the larger measurement is 20.4 cm by 15.5 cm.



Geoff Baker
Posted March 3, 2011 - 6:53pm

Club 5000Panel Member

I have the exact same watch and am also unsure about the model. I have a 10 AE mvmt with an omega. Crystal measures 20.60 x 15.65.

geoff's picture
Posted March 3, 2011 - 8:02pm



I have glass for it... and 90%+ of these Bullys (excluding round dials) and over 150 (Mens) ID'd. But not this model, just yet? I had one a year ago, but never determined the model, prior to trading it...

PM me, or email... I won't be hovering around here much, after this week... (No time to!)

And I doubt very much, that this is an "Ambassador..." Good news is... it's uncommon, to scarce!


:-)  Scott

el tel
Posted March 5, 2011 - 4:44pm


Thanks for the feedback again , now I know the size of the crytstal I am half way there !  its strange that this watch cannot be identified as it is a quite distinctive design




ps.  Geoff , would you have a reference number for the crystal , please


terry's picture
Posted March 10, 2011 - 6:52am



The only Bully namesake I see (from a 1939 G-S Flexo catalog) that appears the same glass+ is:

MODEL   GS       BB   PERFIT  


(1930s) Senator    X706       X2076 159  2 C206/1 158 1 3-207D 159


I too had one of these (scarce) watches a year ago, and couldn't ID it then (for sure?) either!

I have (2) Perfit and one (slighly thicker) Fulton glass, in stock... These may require SLIGHT resizing (sand and polish) mind you! $14.95 + 2.50 Shipped in the Continental US. (Or $5.00 Shipped, elsewhere, for most glass...)


Best :-)  Scott

el tel
Posted March 8, 2011 - 10:47am

Geoff , If you are around do you have a reference number for the crystal you mentioned above for this watch , as I am having difficulty in obtaining.

cheers      terry

shooter144's picture
Posted March 8, 2011 - 11:53am


El Tel,

send an email to, he has the crystal you need (he runs the website).

include your measurements and perhaps a photo to refresh his memory about this thread...

el tel
Posted March 6, 2012 - 11:54am

Still looking for a crystal for this watch . Thought I  would ' bump' this thread to see if I can progress it . Thanks