Is this a 1946 Bulova Officer?

Submitted by Rolin on September 25, 2011 - 11:55am

Hi, I just started collecting a few watches here and there - right now mostly Bulovas. 

I found this one at an antique store and thought it had potential.  It was pretty dirty and scratched, but I got a fair deal I think.  The upper left looks bent in a little, must have taken a hard hit at one point - not sure anything can be done with that - but it's OK as far as I am concerned.  Some of the deep scratches buffed out with a roto tool, and the dial was cleaned with Tarn-x, then gently cleaned with water mixed with dish soap.  The dial was very dirty, and I'm happy with it now. I haven't disassembled and cleaned the movement yet, but it does run well and is very accurate!!  I found a new crystal and will be installing it soon - it really needs it!!  Lots of very deep scratches!!

My questions:  Is this a 1946 Officer?  I've looked all over the place, and thought it might be a Ranger or Cadet, but the lugs are slightly different.  Once I saw a picture of the Officer on this site, I thought it looked like a match. The movement is a 15 jewel 10BC.   The dial was in pretty bad shape - but after cleaning it looks pretty good.  But the print is very bold, much bolder than other dials I've seen.  Could this be an old redial?  If this is an Officer, is the Officer a rarer watch?  I looked all over the net and the only example I've see is on this site - why so few?

Thank you!!

Rolin

 

Before cleaning and after shot (but needs a crystal!!)

 

Dial before/after shot

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted September 25, 2011 - 12:15pm

agreed.

How did You clean the Dial Roiln?

Rolin
Posted September 25, 2011 - 6:30pm

Thanks guys!  So it is an Officer. 

1) Is this a rare watch?  I can't find another one on the NET except 1 picture on mybulova.com

2) (Keep in mind, I'm a noobie!)  The dial is a rough texture, what is the coating?  Paint?

3) The print on the dial is very bold - is that normal for this type of dial, or could it be an old redial?

Fifth, I first wiped the dial with a trimmed Q-Tip and soapy water (dish soap), but that didn't do much of anything - and I was very careful (probably too careful)  because I didn't want to damage it.  I've read Tarn-x will work well on older dials as long as you don't soak it too long.  So I dipped it for 15-20 seconds at a time until I saw a reasonable improvement, rinsing with water each time - that took off most of  the green and some of the darkness off the dial.  There were still some dark spots that I wanted to clean off - so I carefully tested isopropryl alcohol and found it really cleaned it well.  I got bolder and bolder because I found the dial was pretty solid and was able to go over the entire dial with alcohol.  I avoided the printed area as much as possible.  I then went over it with a Q-Tip and soapy water again for a final cleaning.

The end result is really amazing to me - didn't think it would work so well.  I was so afraid I would ruin the dial,  and if I went too far I'm sure I would have. 

shooter144
Posted September 25, 2011 - 6:45pm

Ive done the same thing and as long as the paint isnt peeling it works well.

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted September 25, 2011 - 7:04pm

Rolin,

I own the only other 'OFFICER' currently on site, identical but with a Butler finish (Silver) Dial and different Hands, (need to update the pics) everything else is a match and the vintage ad confirms the ID.

It's surprising how much larger the Watch is when compared to the 'CADET's etc and Yes, they are not common..( I can hear the sock drawers opening)

You should add Yours to the database by using the 'add a Watch' link.

mybulova_admin
Posted September 25, 2011 - 8:11pm

Wonderful find Rolin and a very nice match for an Officer. We haven't seen many of these...You and Firth can start your own club :-)

Rolin
Posted September 25, 2011 - 9:23pm

Fifth, is the crystal the same for both the Cadet and the Officer?  I am purchasing a crystal and I believe that's what he is sending me.

I'll add the watch to the database as soon as I get a new crystal installed!

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted September 26, 2011 - 6:34am

In reply to by Rolin

'OFFICER' Case dimension is much larger, the glass can't be the same (?)

Try Willy @ watchcrystals.net

WatchCrystals.net
Posted September 26, 2011 - 12:57pm

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

Willy? The last guy who called me that was chased out of class... and beyond the school grounds, in six grade...  :-)

 

So uhm... like what are the PROPORTIONS, Mr. Manual Caliper measurer, extraordinaire!?

 

WST

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted September 26, 2011 - 2:07pm

In reply to by WatchCrystals.net

Larger than the 'CADET' of the same era William.

: )

...will send the 'OFFICER' Crystal soon, I need You to match one up, the 'BAXTER' (?)

WatchCrystals.net
Posted September 26, 2011 - 3:14pm

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

Sir Mark,

 

GOOD! I MUCH... PREFER old crystals, vs. "Guessing..." Afterall, I could be wrong (it's happened a couple+ times, now...) and it's 500- 1000% faster and easier, for BOTH parties! 

And incidentally... anyone can PM me with a request for my mailing addy... then send me 1 to 100+ and I'll match as many as I can. AND... if you assist with a NEW ID (or more?) I'll in turn supply the crystal/s at 50% OFF!!

And I'll also soon be adding 75- 100+ more Bulova men's crystals on eBay, BTW...

 

:-)  Scott

Rolin
Posted September 25, 2011 - 9:23pm

I think I just found one on E-b-a-y.  Maybe not so rare after all....

Link to active ebay item removed.

EverydayCats
Posted September 26, 2011 - 6:19pm

 I just received a refinished dial from a well known dial company and they did a excellent job for $29.00 which is very fair.

Here is the before and after pictures:

BeforeAfter

simpletreasures
Posted September 26, 2011 - 7:46pm

In reply to by EverydayCats

It's OK to mention their name, it's only active EBay listings that are frowned upon. It looks like they did a great job, and you cant beat the price!!! Name please?

EverydayCats
Posted September 26, 2011 - 8:08pm

 I was not sure if it was OK to mention names, so here it is:

www.internationaldialco.com/

They are located in Wilmington, OH. For the money they did a good job.

EverydayCats
Posted September 26, 2011 - 9:18pm

In reply to by mybulova_admin

 Thanks, Admin. Even after posting the name I was unsure if it was ok. Glad all is well. And, yes, they do a good job for an honest price.

Daca102090
Posted September 26, 2011 - 8:23pm

WOW!! That is a phenominal result.