Fully Engraved Bulova Douglas

Hello forum memebers i just picked up this beautiful Engraved Douglas?...i not quite sure if that is the name...haven't seen one like this before..i was wondering if anyone can help shed some light on this piece....thanks for the help and info PS sorry not my pic..i am waiting for it in the mail... the seller said it runs but is only missing the crown,not the stem

OldTicker
Posted November 30, 2011 - 11:03pm

I have seen this watch before, it looks like a Douglas, but so does the Brigadier.

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1948-brigadier-741

Nice find!

plainsmen
Posted November 30, 2011 - 11:30pm

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Yes... I've seen it in both white and yellow gold.  Nice looking watch!  Sweet grab... I was actually watching that one as well.

Don't know the names and have never seen an ad for it but looks to be totally legit.

mybulova_admin
Posted December 1, 2011 - 7:30am

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Certainly looking forward to seeing more photos of the case.

bourg01
Posted December 1, 2011 - 11:03am

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It is one variation of the Douglas or Brigadere or Ambassador. Just which one is the question. I've seen several and even sold a few, but I've only seen these engraved ones in yellow gold filled.

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Posted December 1, 2011 - 9:08am

21 Jewels would be an 'EXCELLENCY'.

Ads showing the non engraved bezel in the database

 

plainsmen
Posted December 1, 2011 - 9:33am

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If I recall all the Douglas' are 21 Jewels so that doesn't compute.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 1, 2011 - 9:45am

'AMBASSADOR' - my bad, ad dated 1948.

I could have sworn I saw this case as an 'EXCELLENCY' also.

'DOUGLAS' is also advertised as 17 Jewels.

1947

plainsmen
Posted December 1, 2011 - 9:48am

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Ah.. well there you go.  I've had about 5 of them and all were 21 Jewel.... and the ads I had recalled all were 21.  Good spot.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 1, 2011 - 9:51am

1949

bourg01
Posted December 1, 2011 - 10:38am

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As you can see, All mine have 21 Jewels and 3 are 1947"s.

Geoff Baker
Posted December 1, 2011 - 10:51am

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...but none of them have the engraving. I'm not sure the watch Ellierose posted is either an Ambassador or a Douglas, I think it's still unkown as is........

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1949-unknown-2505

Based on the 21 J 8 AE, I lean toward the Ambassador.

Ellierose
Posted December 1, 2011 - 11:55am

thanks everyone for the comments and infomation...the seller didn't say how many jewels so i guessed that it was the 17AC...i will post more pics and information when i get it from across the pond....

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Posted December 1, 2011 - 12:20pm

If We were to scrutinize the ads, which is a whole other subject, it appears that around 1948 the 21 Jewel 'DOUGLAS' drops 4 Jewels and the 21 Jewel version becomes the 'AMBASSADOR'.

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It's in situations like this that advertisement Dates are critical for identification.

bourg01
Posted December 1, 2011 - 3:58pm

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I agree with you on that Fifth.

Ellierose
Posted December 13, 2011 - 11:48am

I finally recieved this watch in the mail yesterday..I Believe that this watch is indeed a Douglas The movement that it came with is a 17Jeweled 8AC  and the back of the case says A9 which i am not sure if its the original...the code on the back of the case is 2569994...if it was a 21 maybe then it would be called an ambassador...i will post more picks and add it to the database after it is cleaned  and repaired....thanks again for all the discussion on this watch..The dial isn't as nice as it was in the picture(which the seller seemed to let out that info in the AD) but this is an interesting piece..Also if anyone had a dial in good or great condition i would be interesting in buying one..i have the money on hand...please message me if anyone has one a hand,thank you...