Nurse or military watch

the watch is dated 1946 , with a 10BCC movement which has only been listed in the Surgeon. Not in the ads , not sure whether it is a military watch or a medical watch. The rear case was no markings on it other than Bulova and a number . It is 25mm across minus the crown.

terry

 

plainsmen
Posted March 25, 2012 - 4:22pm

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See the other 20 threads about this watch!  Haha... pick your poison on this one.

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Posted March 25, 2012 - 9:19pm

Gruen made what is known as the 'PAN AM' due to their affiliation with Pan Amercan Airlines.

Bulova was known to be the official Watch of American Airlines so I would guess this is neither.

stoddrob
Posted March 26, 2012 - 1:49am

I wouldn't mind having this watch :-) to add to my collection. I've posted three of the same type in the past two days and I think I still have one left to post!

el tel
Posted March 26, 2012 - 11:18am

Its strange that their is no information to back up the name of these watches. It looks like my watch could have been marketed towards the airline industry as the 24 hour dial would be more appropriate. On the other hand it is dated 1946 a year after the second world war finished so maybe there was a surplus of military movements and this was produced in a ' civilian ' case.

terry

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Posted March 26, 2012 - 11:25am

Since when has the 10 BCC been a Military Movement?

el tel
Posted March 26, 2012 - 11:45am

You tell me , you are the expert , and we all know it.

terry

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William Smith
Posted March 26, 2012 - 12:58pm

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Terry  I didn't check the database yet, but you may remember off the top of your head- apx how many 10BCC surgeon records were there?  I'm guessing no Surgeon records exist with different movements?  Also just checking-In your DB search,  were there any occurrences of 10BCC in any known/unknown models other than the Surgeon?  

I have one of the subject watches, and with the length of the sweep second hand and outter second chapter, I had assumed "Medical" rather than "Military" (pulse vs seconds precision/accuracy in a 17 jewel movement). If I remember correctly, my example also has the 10BCC.  Our example case backs have no Military markings.   Thanks

el tel
Posted March 26, 2012 - 2:11pm

Under the search facility , it comes up with a 10BCC in a 1942 and 1951 Surgeon only , on the basis that the movement was used in a medical watch I was leaning towards another medical watch but 5th avenue showing an illustration of a ' airline ' watch made me think again.

This is the fascination of collecting Bulova watches , there are so many unknowns.

terry

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Posted March 26, 2012 - 2:48pm

Bulova was the 'Official Timepiece of American Airlines' as early as 1938

This, along with the known information on the Gruen Pan American 'Ace' as it was known, leads Me to beleive Your Watch is more lkely to be aimed toward American Airline employee's.

2c

 

PS,

the Bulova 10 BCC was never a 'Military' Movement Terry, those known are the 15 Jewel 10 AK, the 16 Jewel 10 AKCSH and the 15 and 17 Jeweled 10 BNCH.

: )

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Posted March 26, 2012 - 3:30pm

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Thanks Terry Fun :)

The 1942 record by WatchCrystals is confusing, as there's more than one watch in the thread, and the subject watch listed as 1942  has an "unknown powerplant" which I think later turns out to be 10AK.  The 10BCC movement it actually in a 1948 watch (not subject watch), so the record date of 1942 is incorrect for 10BCC. 

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1942-surgeon-773

That record could be cleaned up and placed in the newer format by William (Scott), as record owners are currently the only ones who can edit these types of issues.  ...but WatchCrystal is not around anymore.   This adds to the challenge of ID'ing, and it's by reading/rereading related threads that one gets familiar w/ the discussed "exceptions" and well as the "rules", along w/ the incorrectly entered records. 
 

el tel
Posted March 27, 2012 - 2:16am

Thankyou for the updates , much appreciated.  :-)

terry

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William Smith
Posted March 27, 2012 - 3:12am

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Your more than welcome Terry.  It's rough when the records get messed up to where one must read many times to figure out what was intended to be entered vs what was entered.  It was just a mistake, and happens easily w/ all the various details..but they are definitely confusing sometimes.  Then they get cross cited, and the mistake perpetuates.