Recently acquired this one... a real Mystery! 1924 is a guess. Movement is 8 1/2 lignes, case is 18K non-Bulova. I found a post on NAWCC site about a similar Lady Maxim (no photo). The case was 14K gold filled, but had the same manufacturer's stamp. Is this a BULOVA, or was it made for another company by BULOVA??
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Now I'm going to be blunt.
My BITCH with this watch from the beginning was having it listed in the database as a true Bulova with ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF except for the movement marked Bulova, and when I questioned it, all I got was conjecture and opinion which is fine if you've got anything to back it up. I hear Admin. has one in his personal collection as I do also. I'm saying my watch is a cobbled, put together by someone other than Bulova, FRANKENBULLY.
My other BITCH is I tried to handle this discretely and as a adult, but was promptly rewarded by IMO childish over reaction, so instead of a productive back and forth discussion, look what it turned into.
Should this watch be removed? Yes IMO. Why? If I believed my watch or this watch was a true Bulova I would have posted it, but after doing my homework, I determined it wasn't. That was long before TimeRestorations listed this watch.
Should all the early Bulova's be removed? Absolutely NOT. Unless evidence, research,or proof comes to light proving it's not a Bulova. Anything else would be childish.
Do what you want.
I'm done.
In reply to Now I'm going to be blunt. My by simpletreasures
Should this watch still be removed?
In reply to Should this watch still be by mybulova_admin
I'm not sure more than a coupe people ever thought it should have been removed to begin with. Glad Admin chooses to use a democratic process to let all members help him make the decisions/ his decisions/ our decisions! We can always "delete" later, but it's impossible to undelete and near impossible to rebuild the research and history in this thread...and with the passing of time, sure enough, this records true utility surfaces!
Calm down...I'm not sure why you are so worked up.
I'm agreeing with you. Upon further investigation, some morethought and the new evidence of the Hudson I'm now inclined to agree with you. So why are you getting upset. This is not childish and we are all entitled to our opinion.
I for one belive that these are not Frankenbulies but may very well be just another off-shoot of a Bulova watch, but as you say not a true Bulova watch.
In the early days of Bulova making watches their brand was still competing with the likes of seasoned watch manufactures Hamilton and Waltham, just to name a few. Getting their movements out there was certainly a great way of getting a name in the market place.
Again...and this is not a childish comment, I ask Panel members and anyone else wishing to voice their opinion on this matter to do so and if the numbers agree to remove the Lady Maxima from the site and all other non-stamped Bulova watches then I am more than happy to do so.
ST...relax.
I'm perfectly relaxed Admin. Don't take my post as "upset" as you put it, as it translates more to irritation with the childish manner it was introduced to this forum. Plain and simple. I'm not the only member that see's it that way! Matter of fact, we've had more than a few chuckles over the whole topic.
Takes a whole lot more than this to get me "upset".
How about a "Needs more Study" catagory?
After reading this thread... http://www.mybulova.com/node/2379 I am not so sure that Bulova was making its own movements to begin with, They were maybe "finishing" other movements and stamping their name on them, but not creating them from start to finish...
Think about it...It would take a serious cash outlay to build & tool movement, dial, and case factories and what banker would lend the money on a gamble like that on a unknown watch co.
The safe bet would be to buy blank movements from established company "A:, cases from established company "B", dials from established company "C" and build a "assembly facility" to put them all together for a few years until you have the capitol to do it all yourself...thats the only way I could start my business now and I doubt it was much easier when Joseph got the itch.
If we all pulled out dials on some of the early to late 20's movements and looked, we may be suprised...
What is the difference if this watch is sitting in the unknown catagory?? there are plenty of "Frankenbullys" to keep it company.
In reply to How about a "Needs more by OldTicker
In reply to So we already have a mess, by NOVA
Then lets clean the mess up...put these "maybe's" in a different catagory, at least they will be here for a reference point, only watches that are stamped Bulova on case, movement and dial go into the Unknown & Known, everything else that is not, into another, that would include most early 1920's watches...which just adds more to what I just posted...Bulova used American Standard cases...why? because they didn't have their own case facility in the early 20's, so what makes you think they were making all of there movements??