Bulova 1924 Beverly

Submitted by Kunapets on December 10, 2012 - 4:10pm
Manufacture Year
1924
Movement Model
6P
Movement Date Code
Asterisk
Movement Jewels
15
Movement Serial No.
31229
Case Serial No.
1497343
Case shape
Oval
Case color
White
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Ladies
Watch Description

Looks similar to 1925/26 Princine, 1926 Ramona, and 1927 Suzanne, but case shape is a little different. I have it running now, but misplaced the crystal. Band is Gold Filled with blue stones. Case is solid 14K White Gold. Movement has the blus stone winding crown. Any ideas as to Year and Name ?? Original dial, just cleaned.

Thanks  Ken S

Edit Alex: case serial updated in line with picture

Bulova 1924 Beverley watch
1924 Bulova watch
1924 Bulova watch
William Smith
Posted June 17, 2015 - 2:24pm

In reply to by Alex

The first (top) Lenore ad I posted above is a newspaper snippet from a newspaper ad in the decades forum thread.  It's file name indicates its from June 1928.  It's not from the 1927 ad in the main ad database you mention above.  The two ads have different watches in different orders.

The second ad I posted is dated 1928.  It appears to be a frist party (Bulova generated and published),. It has models like tonneau Conqueror which we first appears in 1928 (replacing the cut corner Conqueror of earlier years, which became Lone Eagle).  It also has Benton and Brewster, which are period-correct to 1928.

Both of the Lenore ads I posted don't appear to be the same watch, nor do they match subject watch; they have slightly different case shapes.  Check out this 1929 Lenore in the database, as this record sums up some later (1930) ads for Lenore.

The ad with the questionable date which is in DB as both 1923 and 1927 appears to be similar to other ads from 1924 and 1925, but dissimilar to other ads from 1927.  I don't know if its a 1923 ad, as that may be too early.   I don't' think its a 1927 ad either.

Now I gotta look at the Beverly argument again.
 

Alex
Posted June 17, 2015 - 7:57am

Oops, that link does not get you directly to the ad. It is under 1927, thin grey ad.

mybulova_admin
Posted June 17, 2015 - 9:07am

I still don't agree with labelling this as a 6724. The movement is 15 jewels, the dial is different from most adverts as is the gold content. Beverly still seems the best candidate.

I've just collated all the adverts on site that have model numbers instead of names and there is a deffinite pattern to them as we have previously discussed.

  • Numbers ending in 3 or 5 are usually Gold Filled.
  • Numbers that have a 5 as either the second or third number have a 15J movement
  • Numbers that have a 7 as either the second or third number have a 17J movement
  • Numbers that have a 8 or 9 as the second number have a 17J movement and are Platinum, 18K solid gold or a combination of both

A good grouping example of the same watch is highlighted in red below.

Here is a complete list of model numbers that I've found in all the adverts we have.

Model
Jewels
Case

150
15
GF

153
15
GF

154
15
14K

155
15
GF

156
15
14K

158
15
14K

413
21
GF

414
21
18K

470
17
GF

472
17
14K

473
17
GF

474
17
14K

682
18
14K

684
18
14K

954
15
14K

976
17
18K

3155
17
GF

3174
17
14K

3176
17
14K

3974
17
14K

3976
17
14K

4712
17
18K

4714
17
18K

4744
17
18K

5701
17
P + 18K

5714
17
18K

5716
17
18K

5728
17
18K

5737
17
P

5774
17
P

5790
17
P

5791
17
P

5836
17
P

5849
17
P

5854
17
P

5855
17
P

5868
17
P

5859
17
P

5892
17
P

5896
17
P

5920
17
P + 18K

5923
17
P

5924
17
P

5927
17
P

5969
17
P + 18K

6511
15
GF

6514
15
14K

6520
15
14K

6713
17
GF

6714
17
18K

6716
17
18K

6718
17
18K

6720
17
18K

6722
17
18K

6724
17
18K

6754
17
18K

6827
17
P

6897
17
P + 18K

6898
17
P + 18K

6965
17
P + 18K

7805
17
P + 18K

39513
15
SS

39713
17
GF

39714
17
14K

39723
17
GF

39724
17
14K

39734
17
14K

39744
17
14K

 

William Smith
Posted June 24, 2015 - 6:15am

In reply to by mybulova_admin

Good display of the ads we have w/ info on jewels and gold content. I see the patterns.

bobbee
Posted June 24, 2015 - 8:48am

6724 and Lenore ads do not match the case.

The early Lenore does not have the sharp "corners" that the watch has, they are more rounded in the Lenore, and the 6724 does not have the correct jewel count (17 jewels for gold filled, would the solid gold model have a lower jewel count? Doubt it), and the op's watch does not have the unengraved lines running from the crystal corners to the outer case edge, as in the 6724 ad.

The dial has "exploding" numbers on the 6724 also, the subject does not.

The 1928 Lenore matches, but this watch is much earlier.

 

 

The Beverly is the only all-round match, apart from a 1 year difference in ad dates, which is not enough for me to think it is not this one.

Image "stretched" to show detail.

 

Beverly.

 

Geoff Baker
Posted June 24, 2015 - 8:03am

So far we have:

6724 - Alex,Jaroslav, Will

Beverley - Bob, Stephen, Geoff (I am still for Beverly)

We need a couple tie breakers

William Smith
Posted June 24, 2015 - 1:21pm

For a while, I thought the signature "Bulova Quality" was used on fill models.  
I'm gonna change vote to 1924 Beverly, but I bet it had an unknown model number for a name at this time.  Jewel count does discount the 1924 6724.
I'd only give two ticks tentative.

Geoff Baker
Posted June 25, 2015 - 7:38am

So far we have: (Updated)

6724 - Alex,Jaroslav

Beverley - Bob, Stephen, Will, Geoff (I am still for Beverly)

We need a tie breaker......