Bulova 1927 Conqueror

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Model ID rating explained.
2.67
Manufacture Year: 
1927
Movement Symbol: 
Triangle
Movement Model: 
10AN
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
227404
Case Serial No.: 
7669320
Case shape: 
CornerCut
Case Manufacturer: 
American Standard Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

Hello...I am sorry for the aweful pics(I will have to ask my son to take better ones for me)...I was curious about this watch, searching the web and came across this site. I think I found a " 1927 Lone Eagle" but I am not sure. 

The pics I have seen look like this watch...The case has "Bulova Quality 14k American Standard Pat Jun 10 1924 7669320" and the works has the following: Bulova 10AN seventeen 17 Jewels Swiss Unadjusted.

Any information you can help with would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!


 

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Schaeffer
Posted September 15, 2013 - 8:43am

I edited my original pics...I think I finally got the pics sized right...I hope these help. Thanks for taking the time to help with this watch. 

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DarHin
Posted September 15, 2013 - 2:10pm

After looking through all of the Conqueror/Lone Eagles in the database with June, 1924 patent dates I don't see any that have the same style engraving inside the case back.

Notice the subject watch reads:

BULOVA QUALITY (arcing downwards, all others in the DB only read "BULOVA")

 

Subject watch reads:

14k (all others in the DB read "14k gold filled")

 

Subject watch reads:

AMERICAN STANDARD (level, not arcing upwards like all others in the DB)

As Mark would say, "a humdinger".

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Reverend Rob
Posted September 15, 2013 - 5:57pm

Panel Member

Perhaps 'Bulova Quality' was used on solid gold cases?

edit: Scratch that, I see the other solid cases. How curious....

JP
Posted September 15, 2013 - 8:42pm

Panel Member

A puzzel that will take some time to put together. 

mybulova_admin
Posted September 15, 2013 - 11:22pm

Club 5000Panel Member

Ok then, so this is possibly the first 14K solid gold 1927 Conqueror we have seen. Now that I think about it, it would make sense that the case serial number and details are different from the 5000 batch as they were all 14K gold filled and would have a different stamp die.

So now I'm at 1927 Conqueror.

Excellent!!

mybulova_admin
Posted September 15, 2013 - 11:26pm

Club 5000Panel Member

This could also be further evidence that Bulova batched up the 5000 cases and movements for the original Lone Eagle release.

We now have adverts still selling the Conqueror right up to and post the first advertised LE sales.

I believe that the telling factor with the watch in question is the 14K gold case.

Schaeffer
Posted September 16, 2013 - 1:55am

I noticed on this site...there was a confirmed "5000" Lone Eagle with #227328 on the works....this watch has #227404...76 digits later then a confirmed 5000...would that indicate this is a "5000" Lone Eagle with a 14k case?

mybulova_admin
Posted September 16, 2013 - 6:40am

Club 5000Panel Member

It's possible, but unlikely in my opinion as all Lone Eagles are Gold Filled.

You are correct in that the movement does in deed fall within my predicted 5000 range (which has still yet to fuly defined) so the preence of this watch does indeed present the questions, LE with a Conqueror case, Conqueror with a LE movement, or a Conqueror that was produced and release around the same time as the Lone Eagle batch was produced.

This watch would be an easy ID if it weren't for the 14K gold case and the case serial number starting with a 7.

The idea of Bulova producing 5000+ 10AN movements in 1926 and 5000+ cases (including 14K solid and 14K filled) is still plausible. Remember this is not fact, just my findings and observations.

Either way I do belive that this watch is a 1927 Conqueror from the period prior to Lindbergh flight.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted September 16, 2013 - 5:09am

Personally I'm not clear on that scenerio, I do however agree with admin on the model call at this time based on the 14k Case:

1927 'CONQUEROR'

mybulova_admin
Posted September 16, 2013 - 6:43am

Club 5000Panel Member

You can see that the watches serial number fits within the original 5000 range

Bulova Lone Eagle serial numbers