Bulova 1928 President Madison

7/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.717142
Manufacture Year: 
1928
Movement Symbol: 
Cresent Moon
Movement Model: 
9AT
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
335250
Case Serial No.: 
8326423
Case shape: 
Rectangle
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

This is a men's high art deco styled 1928 Bulova "curtis" model. The case is 14K white gold (RG) with deep engraving on bezel, lugs and along case sides with black enamel. It's 25 mm without crown and 37 mm from lug to lug.

The face is BULOVA marked with sub-second, no spotting, clean with light toning. The crown has coin edging. Back plate is stainless with no personal engraving. The movement has been trial timed.

Just updated the case serial # and the movement information. I will try to upload better pictures soon. The following information is extracted from the case back:

 

PAT. JAN. 11 1927

BULOVA

14K

GOLD FILLED

NEW YORK

8326423   

There are some other markings as well but I can't really read them such as W.77 77-3  E160

 

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William Smith
Posted September 14, 2012 - 12:37am

Club 5000Panel Member

No the hands wouldn't make it anything else.  It was an opinion that the hands may not have come on the watch originally, but that's only true if the hands were not availible c 1928.  Now the Curtis ID may be in question...

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bobbee
Posted September 14, 2012 - 3:33am

Thanks for explaining the hands issue, Will.

Agreed on I.D. change required, now it looks like it is the President Madison, as in the new ad provided by Mark.

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William Smith
Posted September 16, 2012 - 11:53am

Club 5000Panel Member

Changed my rating to two ticks tentative as the Loftis ad is 1930- the only year we have anything indicating the guide may be worng. 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted September 16, 2012 - 7:57pm

3 - Confirmed by ad.

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William Smith
Posted September 16, 2012 - 10:12pm

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I'm emailing Rick Gilbert (senior), who may defer to his son, the newest co-author on the price guide.  I'm not holding my breath, but they could have some info or recollection of how the original Curtis ID came about....
One thing I may have going for me is I've bought several great watches from him over the years....and he's a great guy.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted September 18, 2012 - 4:36am

That being said I will add this:

"That said, also please know that the price guides are neither complete nor particularly accurate. In fact, these guides remain chocked-full of incorrect listings -- most minor, some major... including various frankenwatches and other oddities. I am also curious about some of the listed values, as they sometimes seem to vary based upon whether these dealers are looking to buy or sell particular models. It seems to me that while the authors have "skin in the game", they are not particularly expert on the vast majority of the watches listed in their guides, and therefore they are likely not the best estimators of value. Sometimes, far from it. I also doubt their claim of the prices shown being actual "watch show" sales."

 

A price guide is a price guide and not an authority on Model identification.