Bulova 1932 Sky King

Submitted by jabs on January 24, 2014 - 10:32am
Manufacture Year
1932
Movement Model
10AN
Movement Date Code
T
Movement Jewels
17
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
2071685
Case shape
Other
Case color
Two-tone
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Crystal details
15,6-20 x 21,1 mm
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

1932 Sky King I mean

1932 Sky King
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William Smith
Posted February 7, 2014 - 6:06pm

Here's two newspapre ads supplied by Bobbee (Alien Ant).  They may be in our decades database, but I'm not sure.  I'm thinking Bob found them during his exhaustive online ad search, and may not have had access to upload them to the decades thread recently. The file names, as provided by Bob, did not give ad source (Name/Location of Newspapaer or publisher), but if these ads are in the MyBulova Decades thread, the source and exact date may be in that graphic file name.  They are third party, and could reflect "Stock on Hand", vs. a 1932 Bulova produced case....however the first digit of case SN on subject watch begins with a "2". 

 

mybulova_admin
Posted February 8, 2014 - 12:28am

We all know that Bulova is well renowned for changing/updating their models as trends also changed. Modern day example; iPhone 4, 4S, 5, 5S. People will always buy the latest version. Bulova updating their Sky King design after 2 years is no different. It's what keeps sales figures up.

We also well know that adverts are NOT definitive proof that a model always looked a certain way and as far as the evidence shows (and yes there is evidence) the 'XX' case is simply a Sky King variant.

Panel member please cast 'your' vote accordingly.

Reverend Rob
Posted February 8, 2014 - 9:47am

So we have Sky Kings with both engraving patterns, at the same time through to 1934. The XX pattern wasn't simply a new version, it was a variant? This is the part that I find a bit odd. 

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted February 8, 2014 - 1:47pm

Will,

I've seen the ad You display.

What I don't understand and does not make any sense are the conflicting advertisements Dated 1930 through 1934 which show the 'SKY KING' as below.

 

*Note the Date of the ad above, October 1930. The ad goes on to state the Watch had been 'on the market for only a few weeks' from the published Date.

XX patterned Cases in the database Date as early as 1931 which leads Me to believe the single oddball 1932 ad is erronious, as We have seen with several other Models of this era, some of which are displayed within this thread.

 

ad Dated 1932.

ads Dated 1930, 1931, 1933 and 1934 concurring with the image used in the 1932 ad above are displayed prior in this thread.

William Smith
Posted February 8, 2014 - 5:40pm

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

We've beat this discussion up for a while.....

http://www.mybulova.com/node/2576

I'm still looking for the wayback machine....I think Sherman had it last.  (perhaps Jabs and/or Geoff have found it of late).  Point is, we don't have a wayback machine short of our efforts to rebuild from what exists at present.   ....as I desperately chant  "Drizzle, Drazzle, Druzzle, Drome. Time for this one to come home".

 

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted February 8, 2014 - 8:09pm

and one I will continue to beat up.

The XX pattern ad Dates to 1932 and proclaims a 'new' 'SKY KING'.

The original ad showing the new 'SKY KING' Dates to late 1930 showing the Fish and Chevroned patterened Case, consecutive ads Dated 1931, 1932, 1933 and 1934 show the same pattern.

The XX patterned Case Watch example from the database linked above Dates to 1931,  pre-Dating the 1932 ad!

Either the 1931, 1932, 1933 and 1934 ads showing the Fish and Chevron Case are all wrong or the 1932 ad showing the XX pattern Case is wrong.

I'd have to say it's the XX pattern 1932 ad that doesn't fit.

bobbee
Posted April 10, 2014 - 11:46am

In reply to by FifthAvenueRes…

Fifthavenuerestorations said on the8th. Feb, 2014:

"What I don't understand and does not make any sense are the conflicting advertisements Dated 1930 through 1934 which show the 'SKY KING' as below."

 

Fifthavenuerestorations said on the same post:

"XX patterned Cases in the database Date as early as 1931 which leads Me to believe the single oddball 1932 ad is erronious, as We have seen with several other Models of this era, some of which are displayed within this thread."

 

The date crossover of the ads is easily explained, and has been before several times.

Jewelers advertised what they had in stock, which sometimes was not up with the current models. We see this with the first five Lone Eagle models, if one looks in the relevant newspaper ads in the DB, we can see this happening often. As has been said before, there are LE2 ads dating to 1932, 33 and 34 in the DB, yet the LE3 came out in 1931. Selling present stock, is what it is.

 

 

Regarding the "single oddball" "XX" advert, we have four in the DB, for which admin has original pdf files for three of.

 

1931 ad, this shows the barred marking on the bezel as well as the "XX" engraving. This could possibly be either an interim/crossover model, as this is the earliest we see the "XX" design, or an artistic mistake.

 

These two ads from May and June 1932.

 

1932 Bulova Sky King XX

 

1932 Bulova Sky King XX

 

And lastly, this December 1932 ad.

 

 

Four ads, from three different companies, in three different papers, in three different cities.

All calling this style and colour of case the SKY KING. All have the same price, same jewel count, same dial, apart from the radium/dress difference.

   "SKY KING", the new batch!