Bulova 1937 American Clipper

12/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.01
Manufacture Year: 
1937
Movement Symbol: 
Arrow
Movement Model: 
10AE
Movement Jewels: 
21
Case Serial No.: 
7631904
Case shape: 
Stepped
Additional Information: 

Black dialed 21 Jewel Ben Hur... ORRRR OR or... an American Clipper with a 21 Jewel movement installed.

The movement however is a 21 Jewel and it's sporting the scrolled dial.

 

 

 

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bourg01
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:04pm

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I'm inclined to go "American Clipper C" except for the engraved bezel. Both B & C Clippers have plain bezels and were 17J. Perhaps it's a "Ben Hur C" like the Clipper variant.

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Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:24pm

Pick a Team and Play Shawn, it can't be both.

Case Seriel number matches the Movement datecode.

 

OldTicker
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:32pm

Its the 21J movement that bothers me, Ben Hur...

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Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:35pm

21j's matching the Case, which makes it interesting.....

NOVA
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:41pm

Wouldn't be the first time we've seen this.  In fact, we saw it last week. . . I'll have to look for that thread.

I don't believe that the movement alone can or should change the ID of the watch.  This is not the Ben Hur case or dial.  Those match the American Clipper.  Someone could have swapped the movement for a better one when the original one broke.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:54pm

With a matching Date, what are the chances of that?

I do agree that it's not a 'BEN HUR' Case or Dial.

NOVA
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:54pm

I could replace the movements in some of my watches right now with the correct movement, correct date, and wrong jewel count.  It would be so easy to do.

NOVA
Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:58pm

Here's the other watch I was remembering from a week or so ago:  http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1936-hancock-3660

We accepted the Hancock ID because the case and dial matched the ad, but the jewel count was higher in the watch than specified in the ad.  The dates matched.

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Posted January 28, 2012 - 1:58pm

Club 5000

How about an American Clipper F with a movement swap and a redial?

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Jay

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Posted January 28, 2012 - 2:09pm

Movement swap is 'iffy' IMO Jay, if the Datecode didn't match the Case I would say Yes but it matches.

It's possible this Watch is something We haven't seen to Date.

or

The Customer wanted a better grade of Movement.

The 'HANCOCK' Lisa shows above is the same. Everything matches, except the Jewel count.