Bulova 1938 American Clipper

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Model ID rating explained.
2.505
Manufacture Year: 
1938
Movement Symbol: 
Cresent Moon
Movement Model: 
10AE
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
None
Case Serial No.: 
8321406
Case shape: 
Stepped
Crystal Details: 
16.31mm x 25.60
Additional Information: 

I am a little conflicted over the ID on this one.  All of the other Clipper models have even numbers only where this one has all 12.

The minute track looks correct and the seconds track as well.

I just viewed a 1937 Commander with the white face and this now seems to be what this watch is only with a black face. 

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1937-Commander-50

Is it possible that this is a Clipper case with a commander face?  Looking closer at the two cases there are more tiers on my case than the commander case.

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Daca102090
Posted September 26, 2011 - 11:13am

That might just be from the photo angle, but it is the 6 sided shape and not the slightly rounded toneau.

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Posted September 26, 2011 - 2:09pm

agreed, 6 sided sub Dial.

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted September 26, 2011 - 3:47pm

Hmmm... Interesting...

 

The 1936- 38ish American Clipper case =  only the only "A - C" dial variants, in the several period crystal catalogs I have... But this might well be another yet "unknown" model, then?!

See also Am. Clipper:  http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1936-american-clipper-717

 

Best :-)  Scott

Daca102090
Posted September 26, 2011 - 3:52pm

Well, thats what got me.  Definitely a clipper case but the cosmetic appearance of the dial , at least to me, looks like a match for the commander.  That is why I posted the measurements for the dial, as I have nothing to compare to...yet.

Daca102090
Posted September 26, 2011 - 10:30pm

I went through my "Needs Work" box on new arrivals and found I have two other American Clipper watches.  A 1936 Clipper B and a 1937 Clipper B. 

Now the interesting part... The 1937 has the standard clipper dial with the even numbers and hash marks for the odd numbers.  The 1936 has full numbering and a hinged case.  In examining the case closely the hinge looks original and not added.  There is an external flange line or lip on the bezel half to reinforce the area around the hinge pin.

And unfortunately all three faces have different measurements.

Daca102090
Posted February 3, 2012 - 11:24pm

Thanks to a posting by Nova-Novice and some discussion by FifthAvenueRestorations it now appears that this model is the Crockett.

NOVA
Posted February 4, 2012 - 12:29am

Daca, in my post I advised you to take measurements of your crystal and check them against the specs listed in my post for the Crockett and the American Clipper.  Did you do that, and, if so, what measurements did you get?

Also, I have to note that your case does not have the engraved bezel shown in the Crockett ad, and your case looks more like the Clipper with the thinner bezel.

You really need to confirm this ID against the crystal specs, as the two cases look the same but are not.  The question of which model this is does not rest solely on the dial.

NOVA
Posted February 4, 2012 - 12:40am

Daca,

Earlier in this thread, you reported dial measurements of 18.02mm x 26.21mm for your watch. 

Here's what I get for my Clipper and Crockett:

Clipper -18.05 x  x 26.3

Crockett - 16.9  x 25.3

You have the larger Clipper-size case and dial, not the Crockett.

Daca102090
Posted February 4, 2012 - 1:01am

Ok then...darn.

This is the first comparison I have seen of the dial measurements.

The crystal is listed above as being 16.31mm x 25.06mm.

NOVA
Posted February 4, 2012 - 1:14am

 Those crystal specs are a tad off from the Clipper crystal, but closer to the Clipper than the Crockett.  That glass would be too long for the Crockett.