Bulova 1940 Military Non-Issue

5/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
1.812
Manufacture Year: 
1940
Movement Model: 
???
Movement Jewels: 
Unknown
Case Serial No.: 
???
Case shape: 
Round
Crystal Details: 
Approx 28mm Acrylic
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

Case looks to be plated brass, no markings on case back or dial other than 'Bulova'.  Strongly resembles some of the military models aleady in the database, but has quite a different dial, and no caseback markings suggesting it's not an issued model.

Watch runs, and keeps good time.  Movement does not hack.

The caseback doesn't seem to want to come off, despite my best attempts.  if removal is necessary for identification then I shall persevere further.

edit: I've had to guess the manufacture year, as I can't save the watch without one.  I have no idea whether my guess is anywhere near true though.

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Bulova non issue military watch
1940 Bulova watch
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William Smith
Posted October 14, 2012 - 4:42pm

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Hagbard  You can "fab" a tool to remove.  Get some tracing paper (or wax paper, "onion-skin" paper etc) and place over the back.  Trace the shape.  Transfer the shape to the lid of a sardine can, piece of tin, aluminum etc... and then cut it out.  You could even use a thin piece of plywood or the likes. Cut just slightly bigger, so you can put a thin piece of cloth between your "tool" and teh case back to avoid scratching.  ...and as we say in non-French speaking countries "wa la"  (the bastardizing of the word is fitting, considering my suggestions for making a "tool"). 

OldTicker
Posted October 14, 2012 - 10:40pm

If I remember right, there is a form post on this site from Jerin with a couple of ad scans that show this type of watch, they look like Military, but are not, Aftermarket...Reconditioned...not factory.

I be dammed if I can find it though....

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Reverend Rob
Posted October 14, 2012 - 10:59pm

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Military style watches were very popular after the war, just as today, Pilot watches and other Military style watches are big sellers. There is usually a surplus when Military contracts are concerned, Bulova was probably making use of existing parts, cases, etc, and satisfying a demand to boot. 

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William Smith
Posted October 30, 2012 - 6:49am

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to date (I think)

4 unknown
1 non-conforming
1 too little info to be in database, but maybe its an unknown (Geoff).

-military style vs military issue? We don't have the first choices for model names in watch model drop down menu (below). Doesn't the lack of caseback markings indicate non-issue?

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DarHin
Posted October 30, 2012 - 10:30am

I'd rather come up with a "model" designation that reflects the Non-Issued status rather than Unknown. It's an A-11, just not "Military Issue". To me, there's a huge difference between Bulova Military A-11 and a Military Issue A-11. Even if the only difference is the nomenclature stamped on the back.

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William Smith
Posted October 30, 2012 - 11:01pm

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I agree with you on this DarHin. I went with unknown because we didn't have a non-issue name. While it may not be a model name from an ad, it sure describes this distinction.

Hagbard
Posted October 30, 2012 - 2:22pm

Anyone want to buy it from me, take the back off, and put us all out of our misery about exactly what this is?

OldTicker
Posted October 30, 2012 - 7:04pm

What you are going to need is a spanner wrench like one of these...they can be found on e-bay, but they came in different sizes.  http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-WATCHMAKERS-TOOLS-1-LOT-OF-17-PIECES-/23...

When and if you ever get the back off, you will probably find the it is a Star case, and not a Bulova.

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bobbee
Posted November 22, 2012 - 6:49am

1946 ad.

Note the seconds track has no "rails", just like the subject watch.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted November 22, 2012 - 6:55am

Wow!

Even though not matching the subject that's a fantastic ad showing the 'newer' design of Military Case in 1946.