Bulova 1941 Director

4/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.2575
Manufacture Year: 
1941
Movement Symbol: 
Asterisk
Movement Model: 
8 AE
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
1600493
Case shape: 
Rectangle
Additional Information: 

Curved Rose Gold Case measures 38mm lug to lug x 20.5mm wide non inclusive of the Crown while using Calipers.

Rose Dial with White and Silver accents shows Black printed Arabic numerals, Bulova logo and tracks. Hour and Minute Hands are Alpha style and a Modern style Seconds Hand appears on a sub-Dial totally obscuring the 6.

Caseback is Stainless Steel and stamped as shown.

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted August 27, 2011 - 2:12pm

HMMM...

I believe the "two tone" dial is perhaps yet ANOTHER model? The "red tinted dial" equates to "copper toned dial," in say the case of the Brewster model, along side the Director...

 

Best :-)  Scott

 

Director A - C            CMX2160 or 65 x 176, 75   HMC216/4 or /13    

 

Broker B , Commodore D           MX2037 178   MC204/2 179    

 

 

Hereafter are some examples of Jerin's, Gary's and Philip's similar (encased) watch restorations:

 

 

BEST :-)   Scott

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 27, 2011 - 2:49pm

Scott,

If close attention is given to the full size vintage ad dated 1941 the Dial details are identcal to the Dial showing on the Watch.

'Red tinted' (Rose or Copper) Dial which is trimmed in White (most evident on the illustration sub Dial) and Silver. 'Red Rolled Gold plate' - Commonly referred to as "Rose Gold" with White metal (Stainless Steel) back. The Watch matches the ad and the ad's description 100% and it's not a restoration, it's an original piece.

1941 'DIRECTOR' as indicated in the advertisement above.

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted August 27, 2011 - 5:38pm

Hey Mark,

 

I agree the dial is indeed original, and the movement is from 1941... But I don't see a two- tone dial there, and there's no mention of such, in the desciption(s) (i.e. Nor in the Brewsters.) And I've yet to see a two- tone Brewster dial?)

This appears an earlier use of the same case design, later used for perhaps the Banker and maybe also a Commodore (pre 1947) model? I don't know where the "1947" was denoted... Jerin may have uploaded it here??

 

Nice watch design :-)

Scott

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 27, 2011 - 6:28pm

Scott,

I understand there is no mention of the two tone but if You look closely around the perimeter of the Dial (predominatly shaded Red) and compare that area to the sub-Dial (shaded White)

the Dial described/shown in the ad is the Dial of the Watch.

below is a 1941 'DIRECTOR' currently in the database.

Same Case, same Dial, same 17 Jewel 8AE.

Same Watch but with a 3 star rating, go figure.....I'll pull this one from the database.

 

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 27, 2011 - 7:07pm

                              Left - 'DIRECTOR'                                      Right-'BROKER'

 

Dial example - 1941

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Wayne Hanley
Posted August 27, 2011 - 2:11pm

Do you have an ad or picture of a Commodore?

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted August 27, 2011 - 5:53pm

Wayne,

 

You're right... That is indeed a 1949 ad. I see no 1947 ads, in blue... I believe Jerin uploaded that one here originally, as I had a higher res. scan, vs. the ad, in this instance... I don't recall where the "47" date originated. But I date stamp everything, every image...

 

:-)  Scott

 

 

The 1949 BULOVA "COMMODORE."

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Wayne Hanley
Posted August 27, 2011 - 2:58pm

The last time I saw that exact gold tone Commodore ad it had a 1949 date. What is the source of the ad?

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 27, 2011 - 6:41pm

'COMMODORE' needs a new thread to discuss, You're muddying the Water as this Watch is a 'DIRECTOR'.

In fact it's been discussed:

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1941-director-2535

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted August 27, 2011 - 6:53pm

Oh My... Your guys are getting pretty GOOD :-)

( http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1941-director-2535 )

Wish I had more TIME to hang around, so I'm hardly up on what's been discussed, not, or proven here, of late...

Apologies for cluttering up your post, Mark!

 

:-)  Scott