Bulova 1941 Lone Eagle

6/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.505
Manufacture Year: 
1941
Movement Symbol: 
Asterisk
Movement Model: 
10AX
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
1565918
Case shape: 
Tonneau
Crystal Details: 
23.2mm x 17.2mm
Additional Information: 

 1941 Bulova Unknown 17J 10AX movement, Clean 10K RGP Bezel and Stainless Back, Nice Off White Dial and Gold hands, B/R 12K Gold Filled Band. Very Nice Good Running Watch!

 4-16-11

This watch was previously ID'd as a Ambassador "A", but after acquiring a 1939 Ambassador and compairing the two, it belongs in the unknown catagory for now until another  Lone Eagle "A" ad shows up. ;-)

* Photo update 11-13-11

Case & crystal dimensions  41'  Unknown

Lug to Lug, 37.2mm

Length, 28.6

Between lugs, 8mm

Width without crown, 24.8

Crystal Groove, 23.8 X 17.8mm Curved both ways

Crystal, 23.7 X 17.7mm Curved both ways

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1941 Bulova Lone Eagle A 17J 10AX
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OldTicker
Posted April 17, 2011 - 9:22am

Mark,

The new one is an Ambassador, 21J, 1939, shown in this 1939 ad.

Right down to the original band.

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 9:41am

I'd say - nice find!

17 Jeweled models of this era / design are not 'AMBASSADORS' - I think they're all advertised as 21 Jewels, someone correct Me if I'm wrong.

(M) 'COMMODORE' - ad Dated 1942.

OldTicker
Posted April 17, 2011 - 10:11am

No doubt this watch was designed for a bracelet style band, only 8mm between the lugs, and 10mm on the Ambassador model. Must have been hard to find a good looking replacement band for these.

NOVA
Posted April 17, 2011 - 10:24am

So now we're going to ID on jewel count alone, even if the case is obviously an exact match?  It's simply not possible that the watch could have been issued with a different movement?  Maybe issued somewhere else, or maybe a lower cost option that wasn't advertised? 

Neither the Montgomery nor the Commodore is a match on anything other than jewel count.

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Posted April 17, 2011 - 10:22am

Greg,

If You read the 'COMMODORE' ad it is designed for both types, hence the additional machined ring around the lugs, to help stabilize a Leather strap, if used.

NOVA
Posted April 17, 2011 - 10:26am

Even without the additional ring, the lugs do not match.

OldTicker
Posted April 17, 2011 - 11:25am

It looks like the Commodore has tiny style 90 degree lugs more like the President's of the era, these lugs on both watches are thick, 2.5mm on the unknown and 2.7 on the Ambassador.

How would you get a Leather strap installed when the lug width is so large and the space between is so small?

NOVA
Posted April 17, 2011 - 10:42am

OT - Have you considered the possibility that your watch on the left (in the first comparison shot--the larger one) is an Ambassador "C" and the subject watch is an Ambassador "A"?  I have both, and the "A" is significantly smaller.

 

OldTicker
Posted April 17, 2011 - 11:20am

It would seem weird (at least to me that Bulova would have made both a 17J and 21J Ambassador between 1939-41.

Is your "A" a 17J or a 21J?

I have not found an ad the shows the Ambassador with a 17J movement.

NOVA
Posted April 17, 2011 - 11:32am

True, but I suspect we don't have all the ads.  I think we also have assumed that Bulova didn't list every variation of every watch in the ads--at least that has been the opinion of the forum in previous discussions.  Not to mention the fact that, as someone pointed out yesterday, we only have the US ads.

Until I found an ad for a 15 jewel Craftsman the other day, it was very confidently asserted that all Craftsmans were 21 jewels.