Bulova 1942 Radio City

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None of these in the data base till now. Thought I better add it before it's sold.

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Posted August 10, 2012 - 9:14am

Blackout ad is there Mark, I saw it yesterday. Same one you posted, dated 1943.

Posted August 10, 2012 - 9:55am

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Hmmm, I'd sure like to know where it was hiding when this was posted. Dated 1943 would indicate the name changed from 1942 "Radio City" to the 1943 "Blackout".

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William Smith
Posted August 10, 2012 - 2:07pm

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I'd be careful making using a postcard to make a distinction btwn model names by date of postcard. How does one "date" the postcard.  Would it be by "printing date" (when info on card was current)?
Or by the canceled postmark on the other side of the postcard?
  These postcards has several possible origins. They were available in "Bulova kits" jewelers could order.  I've seen ads for kits w/ 50 or 100.  The postcards could be ordered by themselves from Bulova.  The postcards could also be made by the jeweler, as Bulova provided "mat ads" which jewelers could use to have their own postcards printed.
Do we have a pic of the other side of the postcard to see a cancelation date?  ...and it coulda been mailed a couple years after it was printed.   ...and if the jeweler made their own postcard using Bulova Mat material, who knows if they used the Mat material from the year of printing or earlier (if they liked the "war theme" for their postcards).

Posted August 10, 2012 - 2:50pm

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Will, you make some very good points here, but I couldn't say who, or how the date was determined. Still doesn't effect the  ID on this watch anyway.

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Posted August 10, 2012 - 3:13pm

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Shawn...that would depend.  If the postcard showing Blackout was printed in 1942 then we would have two model names for similar watch (as we now do if subject watch was 1943 based on ads in DB) . 
The larger ad you use in root record also shows up twice in DB. Once in 1942 and again in 1943.  Looks like exact same ad. Maybe Admin has the hard copy and there's a page number or date or something on the back side or out of the field of view which could confirm both dates.  While it may not impact subject watch, it would be good to know if that ad was actaully published in both 1942 and 1943.

Posted August 10, 2012 - 8:58pm

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Then that would send us back to a theory of different names in different countries. I don't even want to try proving that out, "mission imbulova".

This is something we should be concerned about, identicle ads in two concurrent years, very unlikely Bulova's model line up would be identicle to a previous year. Some popular models, yes, a whole page full, I doubt it. I think this ad has been entered twice, for 42 and again for 43 and one of them needs to be deleted when the date of origen is confirmed.

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Posted August 10, 2012 - 2:28pm

Shawn, is that a redial? If so, who did it? I'm guessing that it is as it looks spectacular with that new lume.  The only problem is the seconds track. It's square-ish as opposed to rectangular. this doesn't effect my opinion on the model as I'm still undecided, I'm just pointing it out.

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Posted October 7, 2012 - 2:41pm

.....a little on the History of 'Radio City'. http://www.aviewoncities.com/nyc/rockefellercenter.htm


Posted October 7, 2012 - 11:42pm

A fabulous piece of history. Thanks for providing it Mark.

Posted February 24, 2014 - 12:10am

I have an identical watch in every way dial, hands and case.  the movement is an 8AH though.  I will list it when I find my camera.