Bulova 1942 -Unknown

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Manufacture Year: 
1942
Movement Model: 
10AK
Case Serial No.: 
2670750
Case shape: 
Square
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

ALL ORIGINAL: Rose Gold Filled "Driver's watch" model, 10AK 21 Jewel movement, black stylized Arabic hour markers, cobalt blue hands and sub- second hand at six o' clock. Circa 1942... This fine timepiece is perhaps still for sale on eBay, and was just restored by master watchmaker and eBay UK reseller " el-ooose." I also have over 1500 watch crystals for this and about 200 other Bulova models... My Best :-) William

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Wayne Hanley
Posted October 16, 2010 - 3:53pm

William,

What data do you use to name a Bulova watch? If you have the dimensions of the crystal, is that converted to a crystal number, and then possible models that the crystal can fit? Very interesting & I would love to get a copy of that data.

What is the correct way to measure a crystal? If I have a watch with the crystal missing & don't know the model name, how can I determine what crystal to order?

Thanks

Wayne

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted October 17, 2010 - 6:17am

Hi Wayne,

 

I tried to define most of what you're asking here in the Forum, under my Watch Crystal Replacement" tritiste' :-) Hopefully you reviewed those posts, as well???

The most usful tools are a PHYSICAL copy of any most 1940- 1970 crystal catalog... and "digital calipers," so one can simply (and very accurately) guage the crystal proportions in both dirrections... either while still on the watch, or once the crystal is removed. The catalog is mainly useful to better understand the various (20+/-) fancy shapes and sizes, the names of the shapes, and the subtle difference between various curvatures, etc. I deal with "G-S & BB" brand terms, as they are the acrylic and glass crystal standard, for vintage "New Old Stock," watch crystals... 

However unless one has a LOT of free time to immerse themselves in "crystal speak," I advise taking a photo or more of the watch/es and emailing them to me, along with the dimensions of the bezel opening, where the crystal seats... (See my forum post for my emails, and more info.) Then I may well already have the ID and part no/s. to locate a suitable replacement? Or perhaps even identify another Bulova model, such as the others I first posted here, I've ID'd in the last week... (More forthcoming, when "TixnTox" and "El-Ooose" soon relist newly ID'd/restored watches for sale, on eBay! 

 

My Regards :-) William

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timerestoration
Posted March 19, 2012 - 12:36pm

I just received this same watch from a customer today.

Case serial number 2398811... same 10AK, 21J, 1942 movement.

The only Swivel Lugs Bulova of this era that I can find is the "CONRAD"

Anyone else out there seen on of these?

NOVA
Posted March 29, 2012 - 7:10pm

I just acquired one of these--same movement and year as your customer's.  It supposedly takes the same crystal as the Westchester, Surgeon, Carrel, Blackhawk, Beacon, and Chief, i.e., G-S CMS390.  I can confirm all of those except the Chief--unless that's what this is.

I don't believe this to be the Westchester, as we now have an ad that shows the Westchester as a completely different model with a concurrent date.

I suspect this watch was named on crystal specs alone, and the ID didn't pan out once we actually found the Westchester ad.

We now have ads for five of the six models listed above.  So, that leaves the Chief for this one?

GVP
Posted July 15, 2013 - 7:20am

please can we make this unknown....obviously not the westchester, just the same crystal........ what Nova said.....

 

mybulova_admin
Posted July 15, 2013 - 8:55am

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Would agree, nothing concrete to put it as a Westchester. Case is square like the Westchester but the top and bittom bezel and lugs are totally different.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted July 15, 2013 - 1:59pm

I'm thinking there's a newly aquired ad showing this Watch as the 'CHIEF'

looking.

gshollingsworth
Posted July 30, 2014 - 3:39pm

I searched the ads here for year of 194x and Chief. The 1949 ad has a square case Chief. The 1942 Chief is a rectangular case and dial with art-deco styled side adornments to the case. I conclude not a 1942 Chief.

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bobbee
Posted July 30, 2014 - 4:17pm

Similar case?

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William Smith
Posted July 30, 2014 - 4:50pm

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yep similar case.  I don't remember how William (Scott) originally decided this subject watch was a "drivers" watch unless he bought it from a truck driver :)