Bulova 1945 Conrad

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Model ID rating explained.
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Manufacture Year: 
1945
Movement Symbol: 
T
Movement Model: 
8AE
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
5313018
Case shape: 
Square
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

14k Gold Filled Rose Gold. Case, Dial and movement signed Bulova. Blue spear hands and sub sec hand. Dots of silver and dashes of gold for numerals. Black seconds track. Lugs pivot. Dial is rose gold colored. This watch has been discussed before and is supposed to be a Conrad. Needs a crystal and I would prefer a glass one.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 12, 2012 - 9:43pm

1945 'CONRAD'

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William Smith
Posted August 12, 2012 - 10:03pm

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Conrad

plainsmen
Posted August 12, 2012 - 10:11pm

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Yep

bourg01
Posted August 13, 2012 - 11:27am

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Same here, Conrad.

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DarHin
Posted August 13, 2012 - 12:08pm

1945 Conrad with a '42 (T) movement.

Looking at the other Conrad's in the DB there appears to be something strange going on with the 1945's.

JP's subject watch above:

Case serial # 5313018

Movement, 8AE

 

Timeless's '45 Conrad: http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-conrad-2825

Case serial # 5196473

Movement, 8AH

 

Paleotime's '45 Conrad: http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-conrad-2454

Case serial # 5197332

Movement, 8AH

 

JP's Conrad has a HIGHER serial # than the other 2 but has 8AE found in older Conrads.

The 8AE and 8AH are totally different shapes.

bourg01
Posted August 13, 2012 - 12:44pm

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Not all that strange really, the 42 movement isn't original to the case, no big deal.

I just checked my stuff and I have 2 1941's, 1942 and 1946 serial # 6565010, all using the 8AE engine. I've also seen the with the 8AH as well but haven't any at the moment. Also seen this with the Knickerbocker/Chief models.

JP
Posted August 13, 2012 - 12:29pm

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I have to get ready to go to the EYE Dr. but when I get back I will pop the case back and check out the movement # again. I'm pretty sure I have it listed correctly but when you get my age you know how things are.

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DarHin
Posted August 13, 2012 - 12:37pm

JP, if the pics are the right one's for this watch and they appear to be, then it's definitely an 8AE. I think it's a "Bulova thing".

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DarHin
Posted August 13, 2012 - 1:30pm

Shawn, I don't have a problem with the '42 8AE.

It looks to me that Bulova transition to the 8AH sometime in 1945. But, JP's case has a HIGHER serial # than the 2 8AH examples linked to above.

Were the serial #'s added by Bulova as needed and is that why we see a commingling of movement styles in 1945? Or did the case manufacturers apply the serial # in which case wouldn't there be a definite demarcation of the serial #'s between the 8AE and 8AH case backs?

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William Smith
Posted August 13, 2012 - 3:38pm

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Good question DarHin...and I don't know the answer.  For all's I know, the cases were manufactured in one part of the Bulova building, and then fitted w/ movements in another.  This is a USA watch, and I don't know how the Swiss eubauchs or Swiss imports (BXW) were handled compared to the all USA movements.  The good Reverend seems to have a feel for this type of stuff....and I think he relies on more than simply Gestalt