Bulova 1945 Military Issue

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Model ID rating explained.
1.812
Manufacture Year: 
1945
Movement Symbol: 
Circle
Movement Model: 
10 AK
Movement Jewels: 
15
Case Serial No.: 
OF-104157
Case shape: 
Round
Additional Information: 

WWII Bulova ORD CORPS.

Stainless Steel Case measures 39mm lug to lug x 32mm wide non inclusive of the Crown while using Calipers.

White Dial shows Military standard Arabic numerals and Black printed tracks. Hour and Minute Hands are Military radium and a radium 10AK Military Seconds Hand appears on a sub Dial fully obscuring the 6.

Anti-magnetic dust shield and Gasket between Caseback and Movement.

10 sided Stainless Steel Caseback screws on and is stamped as shown.

 * although the Movement is Dated to 1944 this style of Military Case did not appear until 1945-'46.

as found - glass in poor condition.

 

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William Smith
Posted November 22, 2012 - 2:12pm

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That ad is great. Points out they are identical to those issued, but I also think it's saying they were not issued.  Sold by Bulova- probably the extra they had that were not supplied to the government.  Great ad!  It does say "US Government Surplus made by Bulova", and I'm kinda reading between the lines on the Non-Issue translation. 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted May 3, 2013 - 10:08am

The ad shows the Case design was in play by 1945.

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Posted May 3, 2013 - 10:07am

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bobbee
Posted May 3, 2013 - 10:27am

Another made up watch, if it contains a 10AK.
There seems to be a big influx of far eastern Bulova milwatches on ebay, and those with little or no knowledge of them are easily taken in.
Subject watch is on a par with the OP's "1950 A17-A".

plainsmen
Posted May 3, 2013 - 12:30pm

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really bobbee... is that a fact? lets see your docs supporting your opinion.

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bobbee
Posted May 3, 2013 - 2:41pm

Go read the docs yourself, they are all linked to on the "1950 A-17A" thread.
Any docs to verify the existence of a 10AK in this style case, which was not used by Bulova until the 1950's, as stated by genuine, bona-fide milwatch experts?
I do not need proof, it is up to the claimant to provide that, and all we will get is the same old same old.

Don't ask me any more questions on this one, I'm done.

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Posted May 3, 2013 - 7:15pm

We now have an ad showing what appears to be this style of Case dating to 1946.

The milwatch experts I have read, and I have read many and studied the Bulova Military issue wristwatch for countless Hours, also indicate the Case design existed in 1946: as indicated by the * in the original entry.

Here's an interesting read provided by the Hamilton Chronicles:

http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/01/hamilton-military-usmc-korean-...

image courtesy of the Hamilton Chronicles.

 

 

 

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bobbee
Posted May 22, 2014 - 3:10am

FifthAvenueRestorations wrote:

We now have an ad showing what appears to be this style of Case dating to 1946.

The milwatch experts I have read, and I have read many and studied the Bulova Military issue wristwatch for countless Hours, also indicate the Case design existed in 1946: as indicated by the * in the original entry.

Here's an interesting read provided by the Hamilton Chronicles:

http://www.hamiltonchronicles.com/2013/01/hamilton-military-usmc-korean-...

image courtesy of the Hamilton Chronicles.

 

 

 

 

The above linked site is for a vintage Hamilton watch restorer, and not a military watch expert.

I asked him a question and his reply showed this, although his knowledge about restoring and movements is extremely good, Hamilton seems to be his forte, and not military timepieces.

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bobbee
Posted May 3, 2013 - 8:56pm

If you look at the case in the 1946 ad, it bears only a passing resemblance to the case in question.
You constantly use other brands to try and prove a point, but it is only Bulova we are concerned with, and they only received the specs for this type of case in January 1949, which was for the type A-17, which only Waltham went on to make.
I want to make one thing VERY clear.
Just because you say something, it does not mean it is true.
Try using a few more "IMO's", as that is all it is, an opinion.
Anyone reading this should also read the whole thread, and remember to look at the documents pertaining to Bulova that are linked to by hq-sandman-ute in the "1950 A-17A" thread mentioned above.

EDIT:- The Hamilton in the above picture is a Korean war era model, from the 1950's, so this only goes to show how inaccurate your claim is.

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Posted May 4, 2013 - 6:15am

So much for being done?

If You read linked the text above the image of the Hamilton, paragraph 5.

'The case is a rugged parkerized case with a screw-on back made by the Star Watch Case Co.   The parkerized case was introduced at the end of WWII with the 987A movement.'

 

The case is a rugged parkerized case with a screw-on back made by the Star Watch Case Co.   The parkerized case was introduced at the end of WWII.

WWII ended in 1945.