Bulova 1948 Brigadier

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Manufacture Year: 
1948
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The BULOVA "BRIGADIER" Circa, 1948. 21 Jewel, Caliber 8AE. Identified from a 1948 vintage Jeweler's ad with the Brigadier Illustrated, thereon. (As well as the Shirley...) I presume this was a 1948 release, as I see it listed as being available in models: A, B and C, in a 1948 crystal catalog...

The case and dial look rather similar to the "Douglas" model, from about the same production timeframe, and therefore likely a capitalization upon the popularity of the Douglas style...

And like the Douglas... the Brigadier appears to have ALSO cam in Models A-E in the 1948 +/- timeframe... sported a 21 jewel movement, and even took the same glass+ as shown below...

 

Best  :-)  William

 

And as par... there were several "Brigadier" models produced... (Which when, who knows???)

MODEL   GS   SUC   BB   PERFIT

 

Brigadier   RMS127-15T      

 

Brigadier "B"       RMS124-27T       HMC211/6

 

Brigadier, Douglas D   CMX324-6C   RMS124-27   CMX2135 188  

MC214/5, HMC212/8 188 

 

Brigadier D , E        CMX2151A  

 

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billgreenlane
Posted December 10, 2010 - 1:21pm

That looks like my watch, the tabs that hold the band are the same. Mine is a 1947 date, purchased in 1948, I has 3 diamonds so it may be the a Brigadier (?) I haven't been able to completely identify it yet. I'll keep looking.

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 27, 2011 - 12:54am

There was also another (solid 14 karat) gold model produced about the same time, with a 21J movement... So there are actually at least (3) models, that look like the "Douglas," people...

 

Best :-)  Scott

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted February 27, 2011 - 1:02am

Make it 5 - DOUGLAS 'E'

N.O.S.

 : )

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 27, 2011 - 6:07am

YIIKES!

Is that actually a  "NOS" retailer Tag?! I didn't bid...  :-( (Registered TM visible... The photos were so lame, I didn't scrutinize that tag!) This is interesting... there seems little difference between these two models? Perhaps the Brigadier is simply a REISSUE of the Douglas, as the Douglas "D" takes the same crystal as a Brigadier, at least in about 1948!

I'll have to search my HD and then upload a "Douglas" grouping, to make this less confusing... since I recall the Douglas came in WGF with a grey dial, YGF with several, and RGF with at least one dial variant... PLUS a two- tone dial, in solid 14 karat! (And I only see Stephen's '51 listed here to date, amazingly!?I sold a half dozen glass in 2010, but WHERE are the darn Doug pics???)

And I/we (?) now have no confirmed image/s... of a "Brigadier!"

Good Snipe, sir!?

 

:-)  Scott

P.S. I added the Douglas (models) data here:  http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1946-douglas-1629

 

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shooter144
Posted February 27, 2011 - 7:34am

so am I now the owner of a Douglas???

www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-brigadier-1519

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 27, 2011 - 6:44pm

Sniper,

 

I dunno? Got "digital calipers" yet, man?? (Wink...) I was actually going to email you back and ask if you had the same "Douglas" crystal proportions, and where you got the "Brigadier" ID?!?

I can of course send you glass for BOTH options in the same size range? (Then refund the 2nd, upon it's return.) Or you can alternately send me the old crystal, for an exact match??

Two "NOS" Dougs that just sold this weekend:

The Douglas "B:" 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=170606159237&si=JPEj5%252F0lEF418t051Wsvlpj2sRw%253D&viewitem=

And the "E:" 

Model http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-NOS-Bulova-Douglas-E-21-Jewel-Wristwatch-/180628761094?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2a0e502a06 

 

:-)  Scott

 

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shooter144
Posted February 27, 2011 - 6:38pm

no digi calipers yet...was Id'ed by Wayne its listed here www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-brigadier-1519     specs were from here www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-brigadier-1577

I think I have that right lol anyway the watches appear the same without measurement...I will wait untill I can measure it up for ya prolly tues and let you know....

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted February 27, 2011 - 6:51pm

Hey Chris,

I see... The black dial on your timepiece appears original enough? However we don't have a FOR SURE ID just yet, for a Brigadier... and that's mainly WHY I posted the bit on the Douglas models. (i.e. we have yet to determine if the Brig has a different movement, dial finish/es, hands, band/s, etc.?)  

Ok... I'll wait for the follow- up then, prior to shipping any glass your way... If that black dial is ORIGINAL (vs. say a grey, etc.?) then that watch is scarce, or rare, regardless of namesake!

 

 Best :-)  Scott

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shooter144
Posted February 27, 2011 - 8:29pm

It appears original, it fits well and the wear is exact to the case. I mean, unless you bought it new, its almost impossible to say it IS original...but I would think it is. I considered having the dial redone..think maybe not now , It actually looks pretty good real life, most wear isnt visable. The numerals could use a clean but I have no real idea how to clean them without farther damage to the dial.