Looking at the mybulova.com ads it I found a 1949 ad with the model listed as His Excellency LL, 10k GF, 21J. The case date code on this watch is L0 (1950) and is marked 10 RG. However, the movement of this watch is 17J. I could not find any examples of HE models that were 17J. Also, the dial has diamond markers at 9, 12 and 3:00 - I could not find examples of the HE with diamond markers. Looking forward to your comments.
John
Nice one! I personally have this model in white and black dial. There have been multiple panel conversations on this model, some of us classify it as unknown and others call it
Tuxedo - Tentative
Based on the number of verified examples, it is legit Bulova model as seen. Tuxedo is a match per time frame, movement, case shape and diamond dial but ads show it with engraved decoration on the bezel front; this might be a variant. The following link connects with one that has links to others in the database and a spirited debate about identification..
Just read through most of the comments from the link you sent. Thank you. I see your watch with Black and White Dial. Except for dial colors my watch is an exact match to yours including movment and case date. I didn't mention that the crown is signed if that makes a difference or is helpful.
I was assuming that there was a movement swap here but it looks like this may not be the case. By the way, the dial is really similar to the Director that you all just identified for me.
Thanks again.
John
In reply to I would ID this watch as an… by Geoff Baker
Geoff, can't be a HE, they were all 21 jewelled movements.
All the Tuxedo's we have in the Db are 17 jewels like the subject watch.,
I'm still in the Tuxedo camp. The only difference is the engraving and I'm more than happy to be proven wrong once we find a correct matching advert.
In reply to Geoff, can't be a HE, they… by mybulova_admin
In reply to Geoff, can't be a HE, they… by mybulova_admin
I did find an ad from 1940 from mybulova.com (https://mybulova.com/vintage-bulova-watch-ads?year=193) showing a 17J HE. This may have been a misprint - I saw what looked like the same model the next year at 21J.
One more thing to note: In the ad that I included with my description for the HE LL, the description shows a SS back. My case back is GF.
John
In reply to I did find an ad from 1940… by JPutt
Sorry about the link. This is the correct one: https://mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/Bulova_AD_1940_4.j…
John
In reply to Sorry about the link. This… by JPutt