Bulova 1951 Ambassador

7/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
1.585713
Manufacture Year: 
1951
Movement Model: 
8AC
Movement Jewels: 
21
Case Serial No.: 
6169955
Case shape: 
Rectangle
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
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bobbee
Posted November 15, 2012 - 2:43pm

That ad is a wrong 'un.

Same year has this as the Douglas. Why is this watch ID'd in loads of ads from the mid 40's to 1949 as the Douglas, and one ad from 1949 suddenly makes it the Ambassador? Got to be a misprint.

 

1949 ad below.

There are no early to mid 1950's Ambassadors with 21 jewels in the DB, apart from another iffy ad that shows the Everett as an Ambassador. ALL other Ambassador ads show 17 jewels only. EDIT:- No Ambassadors post 1946 in the ads had more than 17 jewels.

No ads after 1949 show this model/case at all.

Definitely leave as a "how not to"!

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William Smith
Posted November 15, 2012 - 3:15pm

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I can't tell if this case should be dated by the case serial number (1946) or if the case has the L1 stamp and was dated in root record by that method. If the second is true, then the first digit of the case serial number doesnt' enter into the dating process.  I'll PM Matt Scott (again) for more info.
 

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William Smith
Posted November 15, 2012 - 7:32pm

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Matt just PM'ed me the following info.  Says he'll try to get some photos soon.  Thanks Matt!

Caseback, outside: 14k Gold Filled/ Bulova on top. 6169955 on bottom. No letter codes
Casseback, inside: Bulova/ 14k gold filled/ New York

Movement: 8AC, 21 jewels, L1. No shape codes

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bobbee
Posted November 15, 2012 - 11:07pm

1946 case, 1951 movement, probable movement change.
1946 DOUGLAS "A".

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bobbee
Posted November 19, 2012 - 3:02am

This watch case dates to 1946, the movement is probably a swap, so that would make it a Douglas, or am I missing something?

Even if it was 1951, the two conflicting 1949 ads cancel each other out.

DOUGLAS "A", three ticks.

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DarHin
Posted November 19, 2012 - 10:26am

'46 Douglas A.

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William Smith
Posted November 19, 2012 - 5:12pm

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1946 Douglas "A" works for me!