Bulova 1952 Ambassador

9/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.229999
Manufacture Year: 
1952
Movement Model: 
8AC
Movement Jewels: 
21
Case Serial No.: 
61603317
Case shape: 
Rectangle
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
N/A
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

1952 Ambassador. Watch # 22 shown below.

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DarHin
Posted August 22, 2012 - 9:56am

Tentative Ambassador

bourg01
Posted August 22, 2012 - 10:56am

Panel Member

I'd agree to a tentative Ambassador until some more data and ads can be found. Mark has a good point with the coin toss on the 2 ads we have but since the ad I presented is confirmed from 1952, I'll have to stick to that for now.

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bobbee
Posted August 22, 2012 - 11:45am

Two ticks for either, or unknown.

bourg01
Posted August 22, 2012 - 11:52am

Panel Member

I'd have to disagree with "Unknown" as we have 2 ads that clearly match the subject watch. The issue here is to decide which ad to go with. Confirmed 1952 Spiegels catalogue or the jeweller's advert naming the Everett.

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William Smith
Posted August 22, 2012 - 12:39pm

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Shawn, in a way, I agree with you.  But how does one objectively decide which?  It's a function of the system.   The best solution IMO, would be to call it and Ambassador/Everett, as there is no difference in the actual watches.   If one were sold in Canada and the other in USA, and that resulted in the two names at POS, there still would be no difference in the two watches.  (thats if we are assuming both ads being correct and the same year). 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 22, 2012 - 12:16pm

Let's not forget Speigals were not Bulova.

Speigals were/are a 3rd party mail order discount retailer Selling not only Watches from many different manufacturers but literally thousands of other miscellaneous items leaving plenty of room for errors within their pages. 

I'm wondering if the 'Jewelers ads' were printed and distributed by Bulova? 

 

 

bourg01
Posted August 22, 2012 - 12:19pm

Panel Member

Mark, That's just too funny to ignore, are you going to share your windfall? I could use some help! lol

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William Smith
Posted August 22, 2012 - 1:04pm

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Seriously gang.  We add  a "new" model name all the time.  When a new advert turns up, or a hangtag or the likes.... If it's not in the dropdown model list, it's added if there's evidence/reason to believe it's legit.  Unknown just doesn't feel right when we think this watch sold under two names.  I'm not playing devils advocate here, but IMO the system dictates the choice. Why not modify the system for the rare exception.  Add a model name/choice of Ambassador/Everett.
Simple.  We get to follow some rules with consistency and objectivity, and the watch gets named the two names by which it apparently sold. 

Ambassador/Everett  would be confirmed three ticks from me.  This almost never happens, so it's not like we are setting ourselves for future issues w/ this choice.

Geoff Baker
Posted August 23, 2012 - 6:59am

Club 5000Panel Member

We have six for Ambassador - publish please

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 23, 2012 - 10:53am

Given the ads at face value the only difference between the 2 models are the band.

Will's Bulova price lists which, to My understanding, were distributed within the U.S. confirm that the Watch, identified by identical Model numbers was Sold under both names.

Being this example is on a Leather strap it could be either of the 2 identified Models... or named something entirely different.