Bulova 1962 Accutron SpaceView "B"

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Variant: 
B
Manufacture Year: 
1962
Movement Model: 
214
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
E10652
Case shape: 
Round
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
Genuine Bulova Accutron Spaceview "B" 1210-E3 Yellow Dot Crystal 30.55mm
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

USA Made M2(1962) Spaceview 'B". Watch is in Stainless Steel/w Correct SS Applied Logo Kreisler Coffin Link Bracelet.This watch was handed down to me and was originally purchsed by my Grandfather. This Spaceview "B" has the correct 30.55 Yellow Dot Crystal, correct 214 movement Dated M1 (1961)/w the correct snap back setting stem only seen on M0-M2 accutrons. The Yellow Dot hands are original/w the Gold Centers and somewhat faded but original Yellow Paint. Also as noted in the pic, original Yellow Dot hands (Minute hand and second hand are curved at the tips). The M1 movement has the correct 5 solder point 3 wire electronics box with the Transister at the bottom which is only found on M0-M2 movements and has no patent markings at the bottom of this movement which is common for these early movements. Advertsied as Style # 21013 with Case # 2362. This Spaceview "B" was serviced in 2010 (phased only with no parts replaced) so it runs great. It sat in a family case from 1976 when my Grandafther died till 2010 when I became the caretaker of it. 

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jabs
Posted October 20, 2016 - 10:58am

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Accutron Spaceview "B", excellent watch

mybulova_admin
Posted October 21, 2016 - 11:09pm

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That's an interesting observation about the 5 solder points. In checking other Spaceviews I see movements with 3, 4 and 5 used solder points.

This 1965 Accurton Spaceview has the same 5 point solder configurtion, so I'm not sure that aspect only relates to 1960-62 models.

Anyone know why the variation?

This is a superb example of an Accurton Spaceview 'B'

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SpaceviewM2
Posted October 30, 2016 - 8:53am

This  will explain basic set-ups seen in factory ads. Many times these 3 wire and 2 wire configurations have changed due to repairs,case movement swapping etc. The top two pics are 3 wire set-ups. Basically the only difference is the transistor is at the bottom of the early 3 wire configurations and the transistor is at the top of the later 3 wire configuration. If the Spaceviews aren't set up like this depending on their year, there has been a swapping or repair somewwhere down the road. The two wire set-up came out in the late 60's, some saying 1966 is the best guess on changeover to the two wire set-up. 

 

*Top pic: The early 3 wire set-up as seen in many advertisements. Common set-up 1960-1962. I have seen this set-up on a 1963 (case date Stamp) Spaceview but the movement was still stamped M2. The Transistor at the bottom and the black shrink wrap is a great tell on age of movement. Commonly known as the (5) solder Point set-up. 



*Middle Pic: Also a 3 wire set-up but the transistor has moved to the top. Commonly seen in 1963-1966ish 214's. I have seen both this 3 wire set-up and also the bottom pic two wire set-up on 1966 214's so its a tough call to say exactly when it switched over but 1966/1967 is very close. 



* Bottom Pic: The newer (2) wire set-up for the 214's showing up in the later 60's. As you can see all three pics are different but when viewing Spaceviews, this will give you a good idea if the movement set-up matches the sellers (case-back) date. For instance if a seller had a Spaceview with the bottom (2) wire set-up and it was advertised as a 1963 Spaceview, the dated case back and movement set-up don't match and would be incorrect.

 

mybulova_admin
Posted October 22, 2016 - 5:16am

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Thanks for taking the time to put that together and explain.

The 1965 Spaceview I linked to above has the same configuration as your watch, yet it's clearly stamped M5 on both the case and movement. Am I missing something?

SAM2
Posted October 22, 2016 - 8:14am

mybulova_admin wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to put that together and explain.

The 1965 Spaceview I linked to above has the same configuration as your watch, yet it's clearly stamped M5 on both the case and movement. Am I missing something?

 

The 1965 Spaceview that you linked to does not have the correct coil set for that year and in addition, it is in a case that is not consistent with known factory Spaceview case numbers.    My 1962 Spaceview "C" also has the 3-wire coils with five solder points and I agree with SpaceviewM2's dating of the various configurations.  However, we cannot rely on factory ads or catalogs entirely.  The illustrations do not always match the Spaceview that was in production at the time.  One example is in the 1972 Dealer Catalog which shows two Spaceview models having what appears to be an early 3-wire coil set.             http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1962-accutron-spaceview-8084  http://www.mybulova.com/forums/new-accutron-watch-ads  
mybulova_admin
Posted October 22, 2016 - 7:15pm

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So is it fair to say that the 1965 Spaceview I linked to above in infact a converted Accuttron?

I'm still learning about these movements. The earlier 20s/30s movements are my main interest.

What's meant by 3-wire coil? I see that some watches have only 3 connects, some 4 and others 5 out of the possible 5 solder points.

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SpaceviewM2
Posted October 22, 2016 - 7:29pm

These 214's come with either early version 3 wire coil assemblies or later two wire assemblies. It really doesn't pertain to how they are soldered in that compartment. The phrase "5  solder point "layout is just a 'term' used to identify the very early 3 wire coil assembly. 

 

3 Wire coil assembly (Red,Yellow,Green wires)

2 Wire Assembly (Red,Green)

 

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SpaceviewM2
Posted October 22, 2016 - 7:47pm

Yes, I believe Sam2 was saying that M5 Spaceview wasn't originally a Spaceview. 

And when you view future Spaceviews for your reference and panel review, these are the 3 basic wire configuartyions you will see on Spaceviews. This is what is under the dialed watches also, except you just can't see them.

M0-M2 Early 3 Wire (5 Solder Point) coil assenmblies

M3-M6 ish+- later 3 wire coil assemblies

M6ish+ 2 Wire Coil assemblies

mybulova_admin
Posted October 23, 2016 - 12:02am

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That's a really great reference to have in helping to answer the age old question about what is and isn't an original Spaceview and determining the originality of a part.

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William Smith
Posted November 5, 2016 - 11:11pm

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Thanks for taking the time sharing this info.  It will help us with our future ID'ing.