Bulova 1964 Accutron SpaceView

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2.01
Manufacture Year: 
1964
Movement Model: 
214H
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
1-222286
Case shape: 
Round
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
Swiss Armored Spaceview 30.1mm
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

Swiss Made, Bowtie Spaceview 1964, The case #318 is is Swiss Made, The movement is stamped "214H" "BULOVA"  and "SWISS MADE", It has silver illuminated spear hands, The crystal is armored with a silver tension ring, it has illuminated marks at every 5 minutes and the Accutron tuning fork logo as the 12 o'clock mark, The crystal has printed next to the 7 o'clock mark "Bulova Accutron" in white non-illuminated letters.

 

The last to photos are a USA ver bowtie spaceview and a Swiss ver solid gold bowtie spaceview. 

 

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bobbee
Posted September 2, 2014 - 7:20am

Accutron "Spaceview".

Geoff Baker
Posted September 5, 2014 - 5:15am

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Accutronitis, what's the case number of this beauty?

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Accutronitis
Posted September 5, 2014 - 10:43am

The ink is pretty faded but it looks like 318

Geoff Baker
Posted September 6, 2014 - 4:37am

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Thanks. I've been looking to aquire a Spaceview and have been doing some research. Apparently many Spaceviews are regular Accutrons that have been converted. I've found a couple of case number databases, I'll check this one against them.

Andersok
Posted September 6, 2014 - 10:31am

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Using the possible case number of 318 and referencing the online bulova crystal catalog (publish date unknown) I see one reference to case # 318 and it does not mention it as spaceview (several other references to spaceview in catalog). The 318 case is also mentioned with a 218 movement and two mechanical internationals. The crystal for the 318 case is Bulova part number 318A, which cross references to a G-S PA 462-19B, which lists model 21037.

The 1964 price guide lists model 21037 as the Accutron '218', no mention of Spaceview

Based on this and no Spaceview Bowtie ad that I could find, it may be possible this is not a Spaceview model...but this may all be invalid if the subject watch from 1967 came out after the Bulova crystal catalog (obviously it came out after the '64 price guide), and further more, the stamp of 318 could be something different, as it is mentioned to be faded.

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Accutronitis
Posted September 6, 2014 - 9:11pm

my dial caliper have the crystal at 30.10 give or take, def not 30.20. The thing that strikes me the most about this case is that there is no room for a dial to be used with it because i took a 214 movement with a dial on it and tried it in this case and the movement sticks out the back of the case too far, i'd be hard pressed to even try to get the retaining ring started one thread but with the swiss made movement alone as shown in my pics it's a perfect fit, all other spaceview watches i have seen (not including the swiss chapter ring models) required a dial ring spacer when the dial is gone to make the movement gasket lips sit flush with each other, there is no way to use a dial with this case even if you wanted to, there's just no room for it.....    

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Accutronitis
Posted September 6, 2014 - 9:06pm

I just found the "Bowtie" case #318 at the "ACCUTRON RESEARCH and IDENTIFICATION---Page 1" 

Located at http://www.dashto.com/research.htm

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William Smith
Posted September 7, 2014 - 1:54am

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Good work.  I had forgotton about using Tom's pages for research.  He's got a lot of info and parts etc...  I'm going there now to poke around and refresh my memory :)

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William Smith
Posted September 7, 2014 - 2:38am

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I'm voting for "Accutron Spaceview" unknown variant.  No room for a dial, so I'm doubting (or at minimum questioning) a conversion.  One we just haven't seen before, and I bet with time we find an ad or other info which will confirm or strongly suggest a unique variant name/number/letter for this all-Swiss beauty.

Geoff Baker
Posted September 7, 2014 - 5:15am

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I think I'm going the other way Will. All the Spaceview references I find show that the 318 bow tie case was not used for Spaceview watches. In fact, all the bow tie Accutrons I find are dialed watches, (see photo above) so we know that there was a movement that fit. 

Now, in my mind, here's the question. This watch is currently a Spaceview, no question, but if it's discovered that it's a converted Spaceview, which apparently is true of a great percentage of Spaceview watches, how should we accurately ID it?