Bulova 1964 Date King "E"

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Model ID rating explained.
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Variant: 
E
Manufacture Year: 
1965
Movement Model: 
10CRACD
Movement Jewels: 
30
Case Serial No.: 
564569
Case shape: 
Round
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

 Anyone got a model on this?

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shooter144
Posted April 8, 2011 - 5:59am

Or is in adition to a old model. Sure wish we could find some more info.

mybulova_admin
Posted April 9, 2011 - 4:42am

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Both Date King and President, as presented in the exact same advert (opposing pages)

Bulova Date King Vs President

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted April 9, 2011 - 6:13am

There's some useful information!

The 'DATE KING' appears to have a smaller Diameter Case than the 'PRESIDENT' (not to mention 14K)

The 'PRESIDENT' is also shock resistant according to the ad, making this unknown a 'PRESIDENT' as the Caseback clearly states shock resistant. - unless the ad is wrong .

BUT this ad states the 'PRESIDENT' is 17Jewels, so obviously it is wrong information as the original ad posted states 30 Jewels.... unless My 17Jeweled 1965 'SEA KING' in the database is a 'PRESIDENT' - which I doubt.

 

** as an added note:

Country of origin for these advertisements could come into play as similar models could have possesed differing names in different Countries ?

eg: would there have been a Watch named a 'PRESIDENT' in Great Britain ??  - Great Britain is a Monarchy as opposed to a Democracy here in the U.S.

'DATE KING' would be a fitting name in Great Britain or Europe  for a watch known as a  'PRESIDENT' in the United States of America - same watch, different market, different model name.

Which would explain everything.

 

GVP
Posted April 10, 2011 - 7:18am

 Right some going through all this I would say this watch is a Date King mdel, mainly due to the dial details? Just a different model as it is stainless?

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted April 10, 2011 - 7:44am

Right on, unknown variant.

Gary,

For curiosities sake, did the Watch originate in England?

GVP
Posted April 10, 2011 - 9:01am

Hi fith

The watch came from the States, although thats not to say it originated there either....

mybulova_admin
Posted April 10, 2011 - 8:08am

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So, can we please agree with my original ID that is a Date King?

mybulova_admin
Posted April 10, 2011 - 8:19am

Club 5000Panel Member

To slightly digress, the evidence is here and I don't think it has anything to do with what country the ad was placed.

Bulova obviously release a President version with 17 Jewels and one with 30 Jewels.

Maybe the 17J was 1964 and the all 'new' 30J followed either in late 64 or 65.

1965/64 Bulova Presidents

oh and back to the Date King, the same 'red' advert also shows the Date King 'J' version as also being 'shock-resistant' , which would imply that the 'H' model so 'shock-resistant' even though the ad left that detail out.

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted April 10, 2011 - 8:29am

admin,

Wayne's original ID.

: )

Yes absolutely, but did You catch the different Countries /different Model Name possibilities from the discussion?

Interesting debate as the 'PRESIDENT' is shown as a 23 J auto prior to the 1964/5 ad depicting a 30 J auto. 17 j Waterproof auto's were 'SEA KING' models here in the U.S.

Country of origin for the ads / watch comes into play here, there is no other logical explaination for different Watches to be Named the same.

IMO.

mybulova_admin
Posted April 10, 2011 - 8:43am

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Apologies to Wayne, the Ad came from a recent posting of mine, which triggered the correct identification.