Bulova 1966 Counselor

7/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.717142
Manufacture Year: 
1966
Movement Model: 
10CL
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
I813643
Case shape: 
Square
Crystal Details: 
22.4 x 21.5 (flat grooves)
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

1966 Bulova unknown model, 17J 10CL movement with a M6 date code, 10K RGP bezel & back with a M6 date stamp, neat White "shadow" dial with directional ribs that catches the light at different angles to make it look 2-tone with applied Gold markers.

The matching Speidel band looks original to the watch, and in the last couple of weeks I must have seen 3 or 4 of these identical to this one on everyone's favorite auction site with the same band, so it must have come with it.

It is a nice looking and running watch, but it does have some small wear-through spots on the case back.

**4-9-12 update ID'd

Mr. Baker just reminded me to look a little harder in the database, He has a NOS example in there already...Thanks Geoff!

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1966-counselor-c-1763

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William Smith
Posted April 9, 2012 - 12:41pm

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I've seen a couple others w/ this same band /bezel pattern match.  Sure is a good match, if not original.  Geoff's NOS linked above has a different band pattern.  So at the location where these two watches were originally placed in the display and then shipping (paper) boxes with hang tags attached, Bulova musta put a couple different bands on the watches- maybe based on what they had on the assembly line that day....  Splitting hairs again, but if Geoff's NOS had the band changed, let's hope they went through the effort of reattaching the hang tag which I'm assuming matches the label on the paper box in his example. 

These two bands could easily be original without affecting the "C" designation.

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William Smith
Posted April 15, 2012 - 8:55am

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Tentative ID as "C".  I have info on three of these.  The third has the exact same band as subject watch, but neither matching band on the NOS w/ hangtag linked in "additional information" field above.  Two have case SN's starting w/ letter I.  The third case SN begins w/ J.  These case SN letters mean something...and different letters designate some unknown differences, no matter how minor it may be.  I bet folks are working on this Bulova mystery too.   

el tel
Posted July 11, 2012 - 2:50pm

This is a white gold version of the above as I received it . The case and strap have now been cleaned up beautifully. The date is M6 both on the case and movement. The movement is 17 jewels and a 10CL. Case number is 1808952 and is 10k rolled gold plate. Another variation ?

terry

 

 

OldTicker
Posted July 11, 2012 - 6:18pm

I have seen a couple of these go through the bay in white gold with the same exact band...Counselor "B" or "D" ?

Post it as a unknown so we have a reference to it being available in White Gold Terry, maybe we can give it a tentative ID too!

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bobbee
Posted July 11, 2012 - 4:04pm

Very nice find Terry. Bet you had fun cleaning those hobnails on the dial and band!

el tel
Posted July 11, 2012 - 4:34pm

All it took was washing up liquid and an old toothbrush , came up a treat.

terry

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DarHin
Posted July 11, 2012 - 4:46pm

Oldticker, I'm curious about your "flat grooves" comment under your Crystal Details. Do you mean that the crystal is flat and not a military/bent type? Thanks.

Darren

OldTicker
Posted July 11, 2012 - 6:14pm

Had to look through my notes Darren...Yep crystal grooves are flat, so it would take a CX (GS) style crystal, I only had to pop it out & polish this one, so I haven't looked for a replacement part number.

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DarHin
Posted July 11, 2012 - 6:44pm

Thanks OT, i figured that's what you meant.

My post-1965 GS #100 catalog list's a CX871-35 22.4x21.5 as fitting Bulova case # 2727 and model model #'s 03944 & 03945 but no model name. Are any of these #'s stamped inside the case back?

OldTicker
Posted July 11, 2012 - 6:52pm

No numbers inside the back, I have found that with Bulova, its hit or miss with case numbers starting in the early to late 60's...some have them and most don't.

The crystal has no sides, so a "X" number may also fit...