Bulova 1965 Diamond Excellency

9/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.780001
Manufacture Year: 
1966
Movement Model: 
11AL
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
I399547
Case shape: 
Square
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
GS CMY308-33A 23.8 x 22.2mm
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

M6 11AL 17J Unadjusted movement, Stainless steel looking Dial with Raised markers, a Diamond at 3 & 9, Sub-seconds at 6. M6 10K  RGP case, Speidel USA Band

** update** 4-8-12

ID'd with correct crystal... http://www.mybulova.com/node/4197

**update** 10-28-2012

Correct ID supported by new ad found by bobbee Diamond Excellency "C" available in Yellow or White

 

 

Not For Sale
 M6 17J Senator Diamond Dial
Bulova watch
Bulova watch
Bulova Watch
Bulova Watch
DarHin's picture
DarHin
Posted April 15, 2012 - 3:42pm

This is from the G-S #100 catalog circa 1970(?).

Under Bulova crystals is 1146E-2 and under Bulova Case No's is 2687

If it's too hard to read I'll work on it and repost.

William Smith's picture
William Smith
Posted April 15, 2012 - 4:30pm

Club 5000Panel Member

it's a little hard to read, but I take your word for it you can read the hard copy. it would not surprise me to have different data in two different crystal books. Now which 1 is right?

DarHin's picture
DarHin
Posted April 15, 2012 - 5:19pm

Will,

I don't think we have conflicting info, just conflicting interpretations of that info.

I added the pic to illustrate the difference between the Bulova crystal # and case #. Tickers crystal packet list's the Bulova crystal equivalent and either 1 or 2  models that it fits. There are many crystal packets that have multiple models listed on them.

Until there is an ad that shows the 1966 Excellency I just don't know whether it is different than a 2687 case.

William Smith's picture
William Smith
Posted April 15, 2012 - 6:29pm

Club 5000Panel Member

Thanks got it now.

OldTicker
Posted June 26, 2012 - 5:13pm

I think we might be getting somewhere with this watch & crystal ID...

Photo is courtsey of Lisa's site Watchophilia.com

bobbee's picture
bobbee
Posted June 26, 2012 - 5:45pm

Nice one OT. Thanks to Lisa too.

FifthAvenueRestorations's picture
FifthAvenueRest...
Posted June 27, 2012 - 7:34am

Greg,

I would agree , if the Dial on the Watch depicted above could be shown to be original. (Anyone can print 'EXCELLENCY' on a Dial)

The Jewel count is incorrect for We are familiar with in an 'EXCELLENCY' Watch - Vintage ads show the 'EXCELLENCY' series' as having 21 Jewels in the late 1940's and 23 Jewels in the late 1950's.

Diamonds on the Dial say 'Beau Brummel', possibly.

Geoff Baker
Posted June 28, 2012 - 5:17am

Club 5000Panel Member

Greg - I say two stars. Likely that "Excellency" missing from yours means it isn't and Excellency. Is it possible that a 21-23 j count in this case style IS and Excellency and 17 j is something else? Doubt that one would add the diamond chips and then remove the Excellecy script. Also don't think it's an Engineer based on the difference in the dial. 

Either way......it's a beauty.

gb

FifthAvenueRestorations's picture
FifthAvenueRest...
Posted July 1, 2012 - 8:42am

I will add this image to the thread.

The Watch on the left is New, Old stock, an 'original' Bulova Watch with a 17 Jewel Movement, the case number printed inside is 2687. 

According to the Owner/Seller the 17 Jeweled Watch on the right has a refinished Dial.

The Bulova 'EXCELLENCY' series of Watches were 21 Jewels in the late 1940's and 23 Jewels in the late 1950's. The 'EXCELLENCY' script showing on the refinished Dial above does not appear in any ads post the early 1950's and the late 1950's 'EXCELLENCY' sereis was/is Dialed with the familair '23 Jewel' insignia.

bobbee's picture
bobbee
Posted July 1, 2012 - 8:56am

Where is the proof this dial is refinished? Both look identical except for the word "Excellency" on the right hand watch, that kind of finish would be hard to replicate with a refinished dial, I would think.