Bulova 1965 Diamond Excellency

9/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.780001
Manufacture Year: 
1966
Movement Model: 
11AL
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
I399547
Case shape: 
Square
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
GS CMY308-33A 23.8 x 22.2mm
Gender: 
Mens
Additional Information: 

M6 11AL 17J Unadjusted movement, Stainless steel looking Dial with Raised markers, a Diamond at 3 & 9, Sub-seconds at 6. M6 10K  RGP case, Speidel USA Band

** update** 4-8-12

ID'd with correct crystal... http://www.mybulova.com/node/4197

**update** 10-28-2012

Correct ID supported by new ad found by bobbee Diamond Excellency "C" available in Yellow or White

 

 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted July 1, 2012 - 9:05am

Proof?

You'll have to take My word for it.

any Dial refinisher can print anything the refinishee wishes.

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bobbee
Posted July 1, 2012 - 9:12am

Sorry proof required, my word wasn't good enough in past posts, so sorry but if anyone is going to make a statement as bold as that, it needs proof in my eyes.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted July 1, 2012 - 9:52am

The 'proof' is in the Sellers statement.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&hash=i...

and, I believe the same Seller provided the Watch shown in Gregs post above.

 

Under magnification when the 2 Watches shown for comparison are compared You will note the font used for the Bulova signature differs slightly on the mid 1960's original Dial from the refinished Dial. The refinished Dial showing the late 1940's style 'BULOVA' font.... and 'EXCELLENCY' script.

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bobbee
Posted July 1, 2012 - 10:16am

Old tricks again? : )  I hope we don't have to squeeze for proof in the future! 

You are right about the font differences, but I am only a novice and still learning, and If I have learned anything it is that there is a lot of bullspit flying about.

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bobbee
Posted July 1, 2012 - 11:03am

Why are you having trouble with the jewel count Mark? Earlier in this post you say the Excellency only has 21/23 jewels, yet then go on to say the watch could be a Beau Brummell because of the diamond dial, yet all BB's have only 23/30 jewel mvmnts! Show some consistency dammit! : )

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Posted July 1, 2012 - 11:16am

It's all very confusing Bob and none of Us have it 100% down, this much I will add:

There has been a push to recognise a 17 Jewel 'EXCELLENCY' IMO this is incorrect for lack of a better word in a public forum The 'EXCELLENCY' series was the "best of the best", Bulova's finest and was not 17 Jewels. 

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bobbee
Posted July 1, 2012 - 11:42am

Yes, I've been looking at them, there was some real beauties, back in the day. There are a couple now with "Excellency" on the dial, so we can't really say no to the chance of 17 jewelled ones, can we?  What about the "Excellence" collection, brought out in the early 1970's?  They had 17 jewels in there and seems to lend some credence to the theory Mark. 

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William Smith
Posted July 1, 2012 - 2:47pm

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When dials are refinished, there are often "refinishers marks" on the back side of the dial, kind of like jewelers marks in case backs indication service info.  Not always, and I have no idea how to "translate" either jewelers or dial refinishers "marks", but their presence on the back of a dial would indicate something was "up" with the dial. 

  

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Posted October 28, 2012 - 9:06am

'DIAMOND EXCELLENCY' - not the 'EXCELLENCY' "D".

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bobbee
Posted October 28, 2012 - 9:35am

Diamond Excellency "C" variant, three ticks.