Bulova 1975 Accutron

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Model ID rating explained.
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Manufacture Year: 
1975
Movement Model: 
2301
Case Serial No.: 
57589
Case shape: 
Tonneau
Case Manufacturer: 
Jonell
Gender: 
Ladies
Additional Information: 

Inside of caseback says:

REF. L-178 in black ink with U7048-0 and U-10328-0 scratched in

Movement says: 2301

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lylel396
Posted December 10, 2012 - 11:32am

  I fear I may be sticking mynose where it doesn't belong but, as an Accutron collector and lover, but not an expert, I will respectfully submit that, if you don't use 3 digit movement numbers in the description somewhere, you are going to end up with mostly "year Accutron unknown" and there are even some Accutrons on which the year is not marked.

OldTicker
Posted December 10, 2012 - 11:53am

Your input is welcome, and we do have a place for the movement in the listing, in this example it has a Question mark because when the watch was entered, the owner had not opened it up, since then the movement was determined, but not entered in the proper place. Our database search feature has the capability to search for it if it is provided.

As this watch is listed right now, someone with limited knowledge of Accutrons would think that this watch is a model 230 when it is actually a 1975 Accutron with the model numbers unknown and should be listed as such.

Bulova did not use many "names" on the Accutron line, mostly a 3 digit number, Calendar or Day/Date with letter codes depending on the movement used, so when you add the movement to the title, it can, will, and has confused members...even our own panel members as I illustrated in my previous post.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 10, 2012 - 12:08pm

Greg,

Your statements are confusing.

Accutron has always been identified by its 'Series', which as lylel396 has pointed out just happens to be the first three numeals of the Accutron Movement used, so let's not confuse Movement with 'Series'. 

The Accutron registration Card below explains the identity process.

The registartion Card is for an 'ACCUTRON Series 214'

In the upper right corner there is a section for the 'style #'  which would be a particular variant of the Model Series which is what We are seeing in the ads - the style #.

The subject Watch is:

'ACCUTRON Series 230'

style #?

 

 

 

OldTicker
Posted December 10, 2012 - 12:40pm

Keep grasping at straws Mark,

The "series" as you call it relates to the movement, nothing more and nothing less...I have asked you to provide me proof that Bulova marketed these with the word series in any of their ads or price lists, over and over, and this is the best you can come up with a generic Warranty Registration card and Movement repair manual?

Bulova also used Excellence Collection on many of their boxes for a variety of the late 60's early 70's watches...Should we change the name of the "Golden Clipper" to "Excellence Collection Golden Clipper" also because its on the box?

I fired off a e-mail to the local Bulova sales rep in my area asking him if he can put me in touch with the right people at Bulova that deal with the history & marketing, maybe I will get lucky and find out the answers to this and other questions about the past Accutron & mechanical lines, and maybe not, but what ever I find out I will make available to the site.

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bobbee
Posted December 10, 2012 - 12:51pm

This new Accutron ad tells us what to ask for when buying this watch.

ACCUTRON "430".

lylel396
Posted December 10, 2012 - 3:43pm

 OK, I'm sorry, I apparently misunderstood your intent though I must admit that I can't figure out what you are trying to accomplish. I thought you were making an effort to build a data base of Accutrons but that is apparently not the case.

  I will leave you alone and go back to calling my Accutrons what I call them. For example, I don't know what you would call this Accutron of mine but, for my purposes, it is an Accutron214 Model # 521 with a 14k TV case and a 214 movement bearing serial number 135294. 

  Again, I apologize for butting in and I will leave you alone to whatever you are doing.

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I can't seem to post a picture to this forum like I do to others.

OldTicker
Posted December 10, 2012 - 4:34pm

Your not butting in and no need to apologize Lyle,

I would call yours what Bulova called it when they manufactured and sold it, (year 1961?) Accutron 521 just like the ad that features it...

We all know that the Movement is a 214, which is entered in the additional information box, and if it was entered in this database, the search feature would bring it up with all of the other 214 movements, but if you entered 521, it would only bring up the 521's that are entered. Right now we have one in there, but its not a 521, its a 514 that is mislabeled.

Yours would be a welcome example for the database Lyle.

 

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bobbee
Posted December 10, 2012 - 3:52pm

Lyle, we are not trying to alienate anyone, what we are doing is bringing a panel PM "debate" out into the open, where it can be shared with Accutron collectors like yourself.

I think if it has that effect on the members, we had better keep it in the PM's!  :^)

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bobbee
Posted December 11, 2012 - 1:35pm

Found it!

1972 ad. The mini Accutron "L".

"Beautifully textured, contoured case, Camel strap and dial".

poetgirl67
Posted December 11, 2012 - 2:01pm

Wow, bravo bobbee -- would this still be the same as mine even though mine is from 1975?

 

Amy