Bulova 1977 Accutron

6/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
3
Manufacture Year: 
1977
Movement Model: 
214H
Movement Jewels: 
17
Case Serial No.: 
None Found
Case shape: 
Round
Case Manufacturer: 
Bulova
Crystal Details: 
Clear
Additional Information: 

Bulova Accutron 214 movement, Black dial that says "BULOVA ACCUTRON" below the 12 o'clock mark, just above the 6 o'clock mark it has the tuning fork logo in a box, just below the 6 o'clock mark it says "T SWISS MADE T" on the dial, It has no serial number on the back just the date code N7. 

 

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Accutronitis Swiss N7 TT 1 09 13 2014
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William Smith
Posted August 31, 2014 - 1:26pm

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Here's an ad from Old Ticker's 1969 example Bobbee linked above.

If we saw subject case with a different mount/bracelet ID'ed as something other than a "417, then the mesh band would be a necessary part of the "417" ID.  We don't, so ID'ing the case can be done w/o consideration of the mesh bracelet.

Can we say the same thing about the dial as presented in subject watch?

Old Ticker's "417" is apx 6 years older than subject watch example. I don't see the year of the ads used in this thread, but if by 1976 there exists the possibility that subject watch was originally sold with the black dial as presented, then it could be assigned a Bulova Model name/number which we don't yet know.

If we decide the configuration presented (including black dial) may someday be found in an ad, then I'd go with "generic Accutron" until such ad/info surfaces.  Note that "Unknown model" accutrons without "day & date" or "calendar" functions get ID'ed as generic Accutrons.

If it's a one-off configuration for which we will never find a Bulova mode name, then I'd go with "Non Conforming".

I would not ID simply on the case for this accutron example.  There are very many Accutron models and variants by this time.  There are very few Lone Eagle variants by comparison.

Bobbee mentions the Lone Eagle ID's.  I had two of my Lone Eagles ID'ed as Non-Conforming (based on non-POS dial) until the panel at the time decided it was more appropriate to ID as Lone Eagle based on case and "close dial".  I would have left as Non Conforming, and the reader of the thread could have figured out they were a Lone Eagle case w/ dial swap or non-POS dial.  

So saying that "we did it for the Lone Eagles" may not be a good reason to do it for accutrons.  Maybe we made a mistake straying from the protocol for the Lone Eagles.  Maybe they are an exception to protocol.  Either way, there are very few different Lone Eagle models, but very many different Accutron models.

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bobbee
Posted August 31, 2014 - 2:56pm

Good call Will. Generic 214.

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Accutronitis
Posted September 3, 2014 - 4:39pm

The dial hasn't been refinisted because i just found three more just like it.

 

This one is at mybob.net in his list of factory dials !

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William Smith
Posted September 7, 2014 - 3:48am

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The dial(s) may be original, but not necessarily original in the subject case. That's why I'm considering "Non Conforming".  

Would they place the "T" wording on the dial if it only referrs to the hands which originally came w/ this dial-so no tritium would be on the dial itself?

Having said that, I''m still also considering generic Accutron.   Sorry that doesn't help with the ID much :(

mybulova_admin
Posted September 8, 2014 - 4:58am

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There is just something about the dial that says refinished, even if it means someone has had three of them done in the hope of reselling. The combination of 'Bulova', 'Accutron' and the logo in a box has not been seen before here on mybulova. I wonder if there are examples on other sites?

 

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Accutronitis
Posted September 16, 2014 - 8:00pm

I asked Bob at mybob.net about the pic at his web site of the dial in question and maybe it being "refinished" and this is what he told me.......

"That one is from a Swiss case and not one I’ve seen in an American case. It is completely original, too. It would have been a 70’s dial, most likely. And if memory serves me, it came from a gold-plate case."

So as i had thought after close inspection It is completely original and has not been "refinished", the dial that is.........

 

 

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bobbee
Posted September 8, 2014 - 5:08am

Regardless of ID, the dial looks great, and the watch as a whole is marvellous.

Geoff Baker
Posted September 9, 2014 - 4:23am

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Panel - without further ado, please clarify your vote. I'm slightly confused as to where each of us stands.

Accutron is what I say.

Andersok
Posted September 9, 2014 - 6:04am

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I'm also at Accutron, no variant

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Accutronitis
Posted September 25, 2014 - 1:08pm

I found the same dial in a hidden spaceview but without the accutron fork in the white box.....

The dial seems to be a Swiss only thing......