Another Unknown Bulova

Submitted by nwfisk on February 8, 2011 - 2:22pm

So, I've added my first Bulova to the database - the 1940 Beacon - and now have two more being shipped to me.

The first I'm having trouble identifying. Does anyone recognize this?

 

The second is a 1974 Caravelle: (Edit: Removed)

Is there any reason there aren't any Caravelle watches here on the site? Should it not be added to the database?

mybulova_admin
Posted February 8, 2011 - 5:12pm

The site is limited to only watches branded 'Bulova'. We had discussed this before and the decision is that only 'Bulova' branded watches be allowed as it will otherwise dilute the purpose of the site. That is to focus on the information surrounding Bulova branded watches only.

We current have plently of work trying to ID many unknown Bulova models and by adding additional sub-brands it will make our work harder.

OldTicker
Posted February 9, 2011 - 8:06pm

Is the Case a Bulova case, and what type of movement does it have, any date codes?

nwfisk
Posted February 10, 2011 - 8:42am

In reply to by OldTicker

I did not actually have the watch previously, so couldn't post the additional information, but conveniently it just arrived...

The case does not appear to be a Bulova case, and is inscribed with "B.W.C. Co, Monarch" and the serial number "797906" and has a faint "WD-25 G134" scratched into it by hand.

The movement is a Bulova movement. It appears to have the 1930/1940 date code, and serial number 594720. I will again demonstrate my noobishness to the hobby and say that I'm not sure how to identify the movement from what I see. Is it the "4 ADJ"?

Thanks for your patience and help... and I just embarassingly noticed that there's a special topic area for this outside of "ask a question". My apologies, again.

OldTicker
Posted February 10, 2011 - 9:15am

The 10AN in the rectangle is your movement model, and it has a serial number, looks like 594720, so the date is more 1930 than 1940.

The B.W.C. & Co stands for Brooklyn Watch Case Co, which was sold to Fahys, and Monarch is the grade of case, (Gold Filled early cases, Rolled Gold Plate later cases) so the movement has been switched into a different case. Elgin used these cases in many of their early wristwatches.

If it was a Bulova case it would be stamped either American Standard  or Bulova.

Could be a experimental watch, or something that someone put together (Frankenbully)

Greg

nwfisk
Posted February 10, 2011 - 9:37am

In reply to by OldTicker

Interesting, thanks. Did some quick searching on the case, and turned up this at NAWCC:

"...according to the article "Fahys of Sag Harbor, New York, Part 1," in 1937 the Bulova Watch Co. leased part of the Fahys Sag Harbor factory building. Bulova made watch cases there until the plant was closed in 1980."

I suppose that means experimental might not be completely out of the question... How standard were movements and cases back then? Is it relatively easy to create "Frankenbullies"?

Wayne Hanley
Posted February 10, 2011 - 2:05pm

nwfisk

Is the watch running? Advance/Retard indicator on the regulator is extreamly retarded ! Does the watch have a sweep second hand?

Wayne

nwfisk
Posted February 11, 2011 - 6:34pm

In reply to by Wayne Hanley

Yes, as far as I can tell, the watch is running great and keeping good time... I actually wore it out the other night.

What does the retarded regulator indicate?

I wish there was a sweep second hand, but no, no hand.