ID this Lug Nut

Submitted by Wayne Hanley on March 6, 2011 - 4:57pm

Anyone know the name of this interesting winder?

Wayne

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted March 6, 2011 - 5:11pm

His Excellency 'AA'

Wayne Hanley
Posted March 6, 2011 - 5:33pm

IFifth

Is that a guess or can you show an ad or some kind of proof?

Wayne

 

OldTicker
Posted March 6, 2011 - 5:58pm

I think the "AA" has different lugs, not rolled up like Wayne's but more horned style.

Neat looking watch Wayne, one like this sold this morning for $394.00, you got a deal on this one!

mybulova_admin
Posted March 7, 2011 - 3:28am

Details details...where are the details My Hanley :-)

Give us a sporting chance of ID'ing it.

:-)

GVP
Posted March 7, 2011 - 4:37am

 Different lugs Fifth..........I had both of those watches this week. The advert you have there has a kind of curtain tie lug as opposed to the knotted lug with pierced centre as shown

WatchCrystals.net
Posted March 7, 2011 - 6:08am

Hmmm,

Does Longines, Gruen or Elgin, etc. namesakes count?! (That was one HOT selling case!!!)

 

:-)  Scott

Wayne Hanley
Posted March 7, 2011 - 9:53am

Stephen

You got what I got. One picture. LOL But the watch has character.

Wayne

bourg01
Posted March 7, 2011 - 10:54am

Wayne,

Very popular case style, so popular in fact a lot of Bulova's were re-cased in this bezel with a stainless back so you have to be careful when shopping for this model. As Scott has mentioned, I've also seen Benrus, Elgin,and Gruen's in the same style cases.

The Bulova's I've seen have had a 10K gold filled case all properly stamped Bulova, dated and serial numbered. Inside should be marked Bulova, Fifth Ave, New York. Also all the Bullies I've seen have a 2 tone butler, PiePan dial and applied gold Bulova signature.

Wayne Hanley
Posted March 7, 2011 - 1:34pm

Shawn

Thanks for the info, I wouldn't be surprized if the case is not Bulova. The auction only showed 2 pictures and one of the movement is unreadable. Not showing the inside of the case also creates doubt. So I won't find out until I receive the watch. Whatever it is I like it!

Wayne

NOVA
Posted March 8, 2011 - 9:40am

I have this watch.  Can't take pics right now, but it looks exactly like the pic that Bourg01 posted (actually, the crown is different, but otherwise identical).  It's in a Bulova case, 10k Rolled Gold Plate, gold back.  Both movement and case are dated 1950.  Movement is a 10BC, 17 jewels.  Case serial number is 3011485.

Sure would like a model name.

Correction:  On mine, on the dial, "Bulova" is printed in black, not applied. 

Also note that the inside of the case does not read, "Fifth Avenue", etc.  Only the back of the case bears the usual Bulova signature, metal type, date stamp, and serial number.

bourg01
Posted March 7, 2011 - 9:51pm

Shooter, That's a re-case knotty lugs I sold them. Dial is a variant restored to what I rec'd. Plains would call it a Frankenbully.

Nova, I'm certain Bulova used different dial designs over the years they produced this watch.

Wayne, No worries if it's re-cased, it's a very popular highly desireable case style regardless and shooter found the one I sold to theclocksmiths.com . They are located in Oshawa Ont, about 70-80 miles from me. Note the Faustina grain band I often use and perhaps you've rec'd on some of my watches from a couple years back.

Bulova also produced a similar knotty lugs in 14K gold. I'll post pics tomorrow as Knotty Lug UnKnown.

G'Night All

plainsmen
Posted March 7, 2011 - 9:53pm

Night Shawn...

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted March 8, 2011 - 6:14am

When all is said and done You'll find this Watch is an 'EXCELLENCY' variant of one kind or another 'AA' 'BB' 'CC' 'BA' 'BC' ...etc.

If it's Bulova Cased.

Stan The Man
Posted March 29, 2011 - 1:28pm

ome very good info here.I guess my flea market find falls into the Frankenbul catergory.The only identifying marks are on the mvt.

Now I have to think twice about the repairs it needs as it's not running and I'm not at all sure whether I should put any more money into it.Might be cheaper to find a working mvt.
Also needs crystal.

Stan The Man
Posted March 29, 2011 - 1:31pm

Timemachines
Posted March 29, 2011 - 3:41pm

Hello,

 I have seen these case at shows in a box of 12 I think and they were used back in the 50's by jewelry stores. I believe that the stores would buy them to recase watches that were worn out. I have some nos cases and dials here that was used for the same thing, just not this case.

 A person could go have the watch serviced and a new case and dial if he wished for a fair price. This was a popular thing back in the day. I have seen this case on almost every medium grade watch out there and they useually had a trademark in the case, but no spacific watch brand name in them.

 Yes, it is a popular case and I dont think that it affect the price of the watch much at all, People like them.

Mike...

Wayne Hanley
Posted March 29, 2011 - 4:41pm

The case on my Lug Nut does not have any maufacturers name on it. The inside case back has "10 1/2" stamped in the middle. So that indicates a recase to me. The dial is completely flat. The later cases seem to have 3-6-9-12 pie pan and/or two-tone dials. The movement is a 1940 15j 10AE. Stan I like your textured dial. It is the first one of these knuckle luged watches that doesn't have a 3-6-9-12 dial.

Wayne

 

 

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted March 29, 2011 - 7:19pm

I came across one of these replacement Cases lately, advertised as a N.O.S. Bulova Watch Case with no packging shown.

When it arrived here's what I received:

The dial says Bulova but pay close attention to the lettering where the sub Dial is typically located. The Red arched text reads 'automatic' the Black says 'waterproof' 'antishock' and 'antimagnetic'. It's this block of text that is a dead giveaway that the Watch will not be a Bulova. The logo looks authentic, printed in Gold and below states 17 Jewels.

The case itself is not stamped Bulova anywhere.

Buyer beware is all I can say as I'm certain these will begin to surface as complete Watches.

Ask for and look for the traditional Case markings to help authenticate and assure You're getting the real thing....even then an unscrupulous Seller could slip a Movement with Dial into one and add the original Caseback and who would know?

P.S. I've seen them readily available on the internet  identical to some of the popular 40's style Cases also.