Wow first one i seen
Hey troops.
There was a list of possible Models this Watch could be posted some time ago by Member glasswatchcrystal in this thread: http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1950-berkshire-2201
Those Models are -
"ladies crystal 10.4mm fits these bulova watches"
Black Beauty
Carla (6776)
Coral
Eva
Lady Berkshire
Lady Maxim
Nocturne
I see no mention of a 'Lady Air King'
2c
We have no information regarding where/how Scott obtained that list, so we have no way to evaluate its accuracy or completeness. We do know that Scott sometimes obtained his model names from eBay listings, which is not a reliable source of information.
To be relied upon for a model ID (or to negate one), crystal information should be supported by a specific catalog reference or crystal packet that names the model.
Interesting, because that's not at all what I read in that thread. Here's the quote:
"I do not know much about the watches but I do know some about the crystals since that is what I sell. I was looking thru my WC catalog and I found the ladies crystal 10.4mm fits these bulova watches. . . . "
No reference to 1952 GS Catalog at all. Only a vague reference to WC, which doesn't even provide a specific catalog reference. And no specific crystal name was given for any of the models. Another thing that should be required to support or negate an ID.
UPDATE: Actually, the discussion in that thread gets even better. You asked for a year reference on the crystal catalog she was using, and her reply was,
"To be honest I am not sure. I purchased them on a Ebay a few years ago. They are all hand typed loose sheets not like the other WC catalogs I have. . . ."
She later dates the "loose sheets" to 1954.
I'm not saying that she's not correct, but I am saying that this is similar to basing a model ID on a post that's since been deleted. More information is needed.
In reply to It's probably a good idea to by DarHin
Why are we splitting hairs Fifth you know and i know that this was the ladys version of the Air King Dial and all are right on to the Air King. I understand you want everything to be perfect. But we do not live in a perfect world and none of us are perfect. As i have both NOW side by side they are a Pair. Just as the His and hers Berkshires that i also have His and hers. I know this and you know it. As for the correct name who cares. I just know i have them. Both sets.......
In reply to Why are we splitting hairs by Jim Townsend
In reply to Jim Townsend Posted by FifthAvenueRes…
One final word on this and i am done. I will NOT post another watch on this site as i am just fed up with the bickering. I will continue to use this site and talk to the friends that i have made through pm. I think to few of the members need everything perfect and this sometimes isnt possible. Most of these watches posted will never have the information to back them up as it has been way to many years. Alot of this information will never be known. To bad people cant be civil and not piss and moan and fight. Healthy discussion is a good thing when things get out of hand and personal then its no longer fun. It is better to shut up not post and do my research form the shadows.
Lisa WONDERFUL SITE. I have still not viewed all your cool watches but i will in time, I have one of the biggest flea markets in Michigan tomorrow i will be looking through the 600 + dealers to find any information on Bulovas ads dates etc. As well as looking to add more neat old Bulovas to my own collection.
In reply to One final word on this and i by Jim Townsend
Jim, sometimes we all let our inner child have a bit too much freedom. It happens. But I think we all have the same goals, i.e., to talk about watches, explore various ideas, and search for more reliable facts. It's a process, and not always an easy one.
You simply can't bring a group of completely disparate people together and expect them to all get along all the time. Families and friends don't manage perfect accord, so why should we, who know each other in such a limited context?
You post some great watches, and it would be a shame for the site to lose that. (Plus, I like it that you give Fifth back a little of his own "tude".)
My advice is, take the day off from watches and come back ready to talk another day.
In reply to I don't know what it was like by DarHin
It has been like this since day one for me DarHin. Every watch i have ever posted Fifth has found fault treated me like an idiot etc. I have tried to put it aside and not let it get me down. This is the most complete site on Bulovas out there. But Lisa is getting it together on her own and has a wonderful site. I read some of the comments on her site and ya know what not one foul out of the way remark. It was a true pleasure getting a break from the children and visiting Lisa's site to mingel with adults. Peace to ya and Keep up the good work. I have learned alot from your post and you are a great and valuable asset to this site.
The Air Queen model name is legit and therefore the likelihood that this watch is an 'Air Queen' , and until such time that we have proof to the contrary this watch gets its 2 stars as the rules of the site dictate.
Jim have you added it to the watch listing? If not I would be very thankful if you could do the site a favor and add it as a record for future users of the site.
Please remember to keep 'ALL' comments related to the watch only otherwise it will be deleted.