Early President??

Submitted by TMeulenberg on May 9, 2012 - 6:03pm

Hi, I'm looking for any help I can get identifying this piece, it has the following markings:

R5 (or S) 9AT

9AT

MO8E (or C)1007

Inside the back cover are:  PAT Jan 11, 1927.... BULOVA, (in an arc shape), 14K gold filled,  NEW YORK (in an upper arc shape), and something that looks like it was scratched in,, possibly very small initials, maybe... or number, hard to read,... 85P??  And the following very clear numbers in an up arc shape:  9179767.

I am hoping I got biggger, better pictures...

 

Thanks so much!

bobbee
Posted May 9, 2012 - 6:24pm

Sorry, that pic is way too small.

William Smith
Posted May 9, 2012 - 8:00pm

We would need better pics of front, back, inside case back, and movement to get very far.  It's a workout, but worth it if you can ad them. Thanks

TMeulenberg
Posted May 9, 2012 - 10:16pm

Thank you, I will attempt a better picture (or a few)... I so appreciate the input!

TMeulenberg
Posted May 10, 2012 - 1:06pm

Hope these pics are better, lousy camera!

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 5:59pm

Hot Dog, I think I finally got some pics to load!!  Hope this is enough for someone to help me identify... Thanks!!

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:03pm

Inside of back cover reads:

PAT JAN 11, 1927

BULOVA ... in a downward arc

14K

Gold Filled

NEW YORK,.... in an upward arc

Below that, there appears to be something scratched into the back.. the best a can make out is,,, EFP or EFB.. and i's in handwritten cursive, looks like initials.

The following numbers also appear in an upward arc: 9179767 

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:16pm

There is a bell shaped symbol on the works, looks to me like the 1929 mark???

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:28pm

The hand written is no doubt a watchmakers mark from being serviced.Any symbol on the movement? like a square or triangle etc...

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:47pm

 1929 is a sheild mark is this waht your taliking about? it looks like a 1929 Garfeild would like to see it closer up.

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:53pm

Hi, thank you Jim,

Yes, upon further eye strain it is the 1929 shield marking.  Thanks for the initials info,

what exactly should I try to get closer up pic(s) of?

OldTicker
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:56pm

Under the home tab, there is an add a watch tab, use that format and add it as a unknown for now, you can always change it when a ID is agreed upon.

It is a much easier format to upload pictures to, and they will be larger.

Greg

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:01pm

Sure looks like the 1929 Garfeild. movement is the same sheild mark the same jewel the same.Correction the Garfeild is a 17 Jewel movement :( crap back to square one me thinks.

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 6:56pm

movement case inside etc. look under the link at the top of the page where it says search. there is a pull down menu click on my Bulova watches type in 1929 in the year and 9 AT in the movement  hit search and scroll to the Garfield 1929 is this your watch?

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:03pm

Ok, will do... it does say Swiss...

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:03pm

Hmmm i dont see where you posted the Jewel count. Is it 17 Jewels?

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:07pm

I dunno????  How would I determine,,, I looked at the 29 Garfield and indeed it appears to be exactly that :)

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:11pm

I'm sorry that I am a complete novice.. a friend gave me a bag full of about 40 vintage items and said "keep what you like and throw the rest away", this is only the first item I'm trying to research!

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:13pm

I am new also less than a year it can be a pain but you will catch on.

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:12pm

Under the home tab at top there is a drop down that says add a watch. Try loading your information and pictures there as unknown for now

TMeulenberg
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:14pm

Thanks for all your help!

Terri

Jim Townsend
Posted May 13, 2012 - 7:21pm

You are very welcome Terri. There are alot of guys here that know very much about these watches. Bulovas that is. Will Smith ,Fifth Avenue. Plainsmen, and on and on they will help if they are able to see things better.

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