Buckingham Case

Submitted by Daca102090 on May 13, 2012 - 9:57pm

Pleeeease tell me someone here just got the Buckingham case that just closed on the BAY..

yugioh1776
Posted May 13, 2012 - 10:09pm

 I can tell you that i didn't get it I was so mad !!!!! I would have been a great project to do over summer.

OldTicker
Posted May 13, 2012 - 10:15pm

Ha, it sure went from $5.00 to $45.00 in a hurry didn't it...

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 14, 2012 - 7:22am

The Case was from a Watchmakers Estate and looked Minty. Sorry, I couldn't resist...

Daca102090
Posted May 14, 2012 - 11:02am

Minty is an understatement!!!

plus it has the crystal as well.

NOVA
Posted May 14, 2012 - 11:42am

From the photos is appears to be missing the enameling on the ends as seen in the ad. 

My 1929 version runs on an 8AN.  That may be the only movement that will fit the case appropriately.

 

mybulova_admin
Posted May 16, 2012 - 1:26am

Do we know for sure this model had enameling?

I'd say no it didn't and that the photo merely emphasizes the pattern. The ad mentions nothing of enameling.

My 2c.

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 14, 2012 - 11:33am

Yip, Enameling has a bad habit of washing / wearing off after 80+ Years,  if the Glass is good that's an added bonus - the adhesive looks dated so it's been in there a while.

Here's a shot of the back.

The 15 Jewel 8AN is correct for this Watch.

mybulova_admin
Posted May 16, 2012 - 1:30am

Again, I would disagree that the enameling has washed or worn off. We have seen enough 80+ year old Lone Eagles with plenty of enameling still attached. It would take a fair bit of wear to remove it. Again I believe that this model did not have enamel inlayed into the pattern.

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 14, 2012 - 12:49pm

17, my bad.

lol

brtime
Posted May 15, 2012 - 6:53pm

Am I allowed to ask what a "Buckingham" in nice condition is worth? I see Bryan Girouard had one on his website a while ago, but he does not leave his prices showing on his archived watches. I might have a lead on one, and I want to offer the guy a fair price. Thanks. Bruce

OldTicker
Posted May 15, 2012 - 7:28pm

It depends on the condition Bruce,

They are sort of rare, and that helps boost up the price, if I remember right, there was one on the Bay last year that was in rebuildable condition that still brought close to $200.00

Greg

NOVA
Posted May 15, 2012 - 9:40pm

The one I bought on eBay a couple of weeks ago appears to be all original and in pretty good condition, though the crystal was badly cracked.  It sold at auction for a little under $300.00.

Jim Townsend
Posted May 15, 2012 - 7:13pm

Worth Price quotes etc.  are  not  given here. I would say offer what you are willing to pay. Like most they are worth what a buyer is willing to pay to get it.

brtime
Posted May 15, 2012 - 8:05pm

OK, thanks. I did ask Bryan Girouard what he sold his for (very nice condition) and he emailed back and wrote "somewhere between $500-$800, I can't remember exactly." I like Bryan; he's a great guy, but one of the things I find ironic about him is that he takes beautiful photos and goes to great lengths to describe his watches. But apparently he does not record what he sells his watches for! (Bryan if you're reading this, I'm not being critical. I just find it "quirky" in that charming sort of way!). Anyway, thanks for the comments, and sorry if I breached protocol by bringing up prices.

 

Bruce

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 19, 2012 - 8:30pm

Although not quite ready for prime time, there is some very stubborn crystal adhesive in the shelf recess, the 'BUCKINGHAM' Case arrived.

The Case is a 2 piece snap fit, slightly curved with hidden lugs and is a 'set back' design. (The Movement sits in the Caseback.)

The Case measures approx 39mm lug to lug x 24mm using Calipers and the bezel opening is 22.9(7) x 17.7(6)  MX

The serial number dates the Case to 1928.

enjoi

William Smith
Posted May 19, 2012 - 9:10pm

Someone cleaned the bezel, removing the enamel, then used a platting pen or electro of some type to redo the bezel front. I don't know replating techniques or terminology.  But the cobbled/recessed area just look too smooth/clean.  Compare to wear on inside front and back of bezel.  Inside wear inconsistent w/ bezel front.   ...unless it really took a beating from the inside out.

William Smith
Posted May 19, 2012 - 9:37pm

...or the enamel was never there, and they did stuff suspected above w/o removing enamel step?

FifthAvenueRes…
Posted May 19, 2012 - 9:38pm

One would think the Bezel has possibly been replated, but that would require plating under 80+ Years of ick around the crystal? 

The inside of the Case certainly hasn't received the same attention to detail as the exterior.

William Smith
Posted May 19, 2012 - 9:39pm

OldTicker was telling me about a platting pen which can be very specific to areas while avoiding others.  I wondered about ick and non-replated areas too.  Someone who knows platting will chime in soon.

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