Two-tone case. 9AT movement. 15 jewels. Any help in identifying would be appreciated. Also, why does the case number start with a letter? I've been wanting an early two-tone watch, and this one fit the bill, but I can't see to find the model looking on the site or looking at Watchophilia... Otherwise, I've been able to identify most of the watches I've been getting using the resourses on mybulova.com... Thanks for any help!
In reply to To get my point across, I by 1955mercury
I agree both your example and subject watch are non-conforming compared to the ads at hand. I seriously doubt the Garfield case housing a 15 jewel movement is another model name....so it's a marriage or movement swap, with a non-advertised dial.
I'm at least changing my ticks to one (not-confirmed) based on all this...and to your point, I doubt it will ever be confirmed because it's polygamous marriage... LOL (Garfield case, 15 j movement, and what is probably an after Point Of Sale dress dial).
I don't think anyone would disagree that the model is pieced together. But I enjoy referencing actual photos of cases to cross reference my ad searches. So along the same lines of Mercury's argument. As people come to our beloved site, as novice collectors they need 100% pieces (no guarantee ever on these old watches) but at least period correct movements and dials. As savvy collectors and seasoned veterans we also need to see original parts to cross reference searches we are doing on our own, in conjunction with our site. I use this site sometimes as a "library of Congress" for Bulova. As I find other references out in the world I compare them to what I find here. Really one of only a few places to see modern actual photos of movements parts and pieces of watches. Certainly the best place for this. So Will,I ask.... where would this example be placed so if someone is researching for a case match. How would they get this watch to come up in a search for a Garfield once it is categorized as non conforming? Admin? Thank you.
In reply to I don't think anyone would by Richard Callamaras
Good point as far as being able to identify a Garfield case from more than just the picture in the ad and what result if its "delisted" and instead just called nonconforming. I use this site and Watchophilia constantly to research models and identify watches. Of course, as the owner of this FrankenGarfield, I'm a bit disappointed that the movement and dial doesn't match, but for me its been a learning experience since I purchased it in March, 2013 and as I've progressed in my Bulova collecting. I've learned a great deal from this site and appreciate the process as I've hopefully become a bit more "savvy" as far as what to look for in evaluating watches. I also really appreciate all of the expertice and information folks have shared. BTW, for what its worth, despite the nonconforming aspects of my "Garfield", I wear it frequently and have enjoyed it a lot. It was the first of my two-tone Bulovas...
David
In reply to Good point as far as being by dhhirsch
One of my favorite to wear is a military frankenbully!:) your right of course its all about the passion of collecting these beauties. I would like to know if we have a way of finding these non conforming to verify if it is a one of a kind in our data bank. Once we have a more complete and accurate representation of the watch. So there is at least a Physical representation of a previously in un- represented watch?
In reply to I don't think anyone would by Richard Callamaras
Hi Richard
If it were listed as "Non Conforming" in the main ID, the entire text of the comments would be searchable via the main search page, so someone wanting to read about "Garfield" could enter that term in the global site search, or to search just watch records, they could enter the Garfield term in the "search mybulova watches" to circumvent the forum threads discussing Garfield.
In reply to What do you guys think about by 1955mercury
Another way we elucidate the validity of the ID is with the ticks system. I'm at one tick for "not confirmed", as it may never be if it's pieced together beautifully.
This still has it ID'ed as Garfield, so it can be found easily, and validity of ID can be based on tick score.
I'm gonna update the year to match the case SN, since that is the bulk of the ID, and I'll change the leading "C"" in case SN to a "0" :)