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Bulova 1931 Allerton

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Model ID rating explained.
1.39125

Manufacture Year: 

1931

Movement Model: 

10 AN

Movement Jewels: 

21

Movement Serial No.: 

-

Case Serial No.: 

1087027

Case shape: 

Stepped

Additional Information

Hinged Yellow Gold Case measures 36mm lug to lug x 25.5mm wide non inclusive of the Crown using Calipers.

Original Butler finish Dial shows Radium Arabic numerals, Bulova signature is applied Gilt and tracks are printed Black. Hour and Minute Hands are 'Cathedral style' and a Modern style Seconds Hand appears on a sub Dial partially obscuring the 6.

A dust shield and Gold retaining ring appears over the Movement.

Movement block is Gold.

Crown is original.

Caseback is stamped as shown.

* Year of manufacture based on Case seriel number.

 

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Wayne Hanley
Posted December 21, 2010 - 2:47pm

Mark

Is the shield symbol the 1929 squiggly shield or the 1931 straight shield. I am also in doubt about a 21j movement so early. e.g. My 1931 Lone Eagle sports a 9AT movement with 15j. All of the Series III advertised 17j. 

Wayne

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 21, 2010 - 5:06pm

Wayne,

That's a close call. The shield is stamped so close to a screw head I could barely make it out, in fact it was hidden by some 'dirt' (see the oily patch in the 2nd new pic at 9 o'Clock on the movement) which I gingerly brushed away with an alcohol swab. At first I thought a late 30's President but there are subtle differences.  2 steps to the case vs 3. The dial, hands and convex shape of the crystal all say late 20's early 30's.

I'll look again.

Wayne,

Bell shaped - Squiggly.

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Stephen Ollman
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Posted December 21, 2010 - 5:25pm

Probably a precursor to the Series 3 Lone Eagle.

The tonneau model was still being advertised as the current LE and reaching its marketing end of life after being so popular and drawn out for 3 years.

This model I beleive existed as another name and with the addition of some sporty stripes at the top and bottom was re-invented as the Series 3 Lone Eagle,.

Now to identify the model as it was know pre LE.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted December 21, 2010 - 9:48pm

Gentlemen,

The only step-side watch made by Bulova in 1930 was the Gladiator & I don't think it was advertised, or I havn't seen the ad, but I have pictures of it. I believe Marks step-side has a 1931 case. The Bulova 21j movement was not ready for prime time in 1931. I would like it to be though. Mark it's a rare beauty.

It is a bell for 1929. Not the aforementioned squiggly shield. LOL

Wayne

 

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Stephen Ollman
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Posted December 22, 2010 - 6:50pm

Ad here: http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/1930-AD9-(Sept-27).jpg

Slightly different case, but I tend to agree with Wayne the only other stepped case around this time similar is the Gladiator.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted December 22, 2010 - 7:21pm

I remember the ad now. The actual watch is so much mo betta lookin than the ad.

What are you thinking about the 21j movement, if i'm not being too nosey? LOL

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 23, 2010 - 12:47am

 

I think You're on the right track. - The lack of a seriel # on the movement interests Me. Covert pre release or a test run , first run maybe? I'll try to get a closer shot, til then there's this, which isn't very good.

and for giggles, a split screen next to My 1929 Governor, which has the very same all Yellow Gold attributes.

 

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Stephen Ollman
Club 5000Panel Member
Posted December 23, 2010 - 12:17am

21J...nah...it'll be a replacment movement IMO.

Scratch the Gladitor...case is way too different.

I gather the hinge has broken on the case.....The case is stamped 'Bulova' isn't it??? 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted December 23, 2010 - 6:06am

Stephen,

Yes, Bulova quality stamped  inside the lid along with the 1927 pat date, no indication of the cases construction, non hinged.

If the movement isn't 1929 there's really no other way to nail the date on the watch.

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Stephen Ollman
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Posted December 23, 2010 - 6:43am

Do we know if the hinge is broken? Most 20 and early 30s Bulova had a hinged back case.

Ok so its safe to say its certainly a Bulova case (just wanted to check as I've seen variuos watch companies use very simialar designs).

The mystery continues.