1941 Bulova Unknown 17J 10AX movement, Clean 10K RGP Bezel and Stainless Back, Nice Off White Dial and Gold hands, B/R 12K Gold Filled Band. Very Nice Good Running Watch!
4-16-11
This watch was previously ID'd as a Ambassador "A", but after acquiring a 1939 Ambassador and compairing the two, it belongs in the unknown catagory for now until another Lone Eagle "A" ad shows up. ;-)
* Photo update 11-13-11
Case & crystal dimensions 41' Unknown
Lug to Lug, 37.2mm
Length, 28.6
Between lugs, 8mm
Width without crown, 24.8
Crystal Groove, 23.8 X 17.8mm Curved both ways
Crystal, 23.7 X 17.7mm Curved both ways
I think my eyeballs are bleeding but here is what the write-up under Jerin's ad reads;
$33.75
"Lone Eagle A"
(H) Smart elegant
styled 10-K yellow
rolled gold plated
case with curved
stainless metal
back and stirrup
ends 17 jewel
Bulova movement
matching adjustable
slide link bracelet
4M 01564T
Post
ppd. $33.75
The Ambassadors have a matching Gold filled case back and this unknown 17J has a stainless back with a 10K RGP bezel.
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OT - that ad cleared up something that I was wrong about. I did think the Ambassador "A" was smaller than the "C". I guess that was just because the watch I have, which I had identified as an "A" is smaller than my "C".
So, I have this watch (pictured above) that looks similar to yours, although not engraved, is smaller than my Ambassador "C", is a 17 jewel, does not have the rings on the lugs, is 10mm between lugs, and does not match either set of dimensions that you posted. Wonder what the heck it is. It does not seem to fit the profile of anything discussed in this thread, but rather is a combination of several elements from different watches.
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This is again where it will likely come down to crystal specs and catalogs? (The catalogs + a slew of NOS crystals...) Otherwise, it will remain "tentative," even with the correct crystal specs... There are generally at least two models that take the same glass+ and quite often more... as for instance, or example... So how is it more ACCURATE to guess between say (2) similar models, vs. 4+ (in this CASE) with a couple of ads, and even the watches, as you're STILL then missing the other part of the equation, as par... (i.e. confirmation via catalog of the POTENTIAL model namesakes, plus a "Perfit/=" glass, to confirm the correct fit and 95%++ ID!)
Furthermore... until more ads, jewellers catalogs, or additional sales promo lit surfaces... crystals are THE best way to discern what a model (95%+ of the time) actually IS... (i.e. that is to say IF you have enough catalogs... showing the likely release year, plus perhaps a few months?!) IF no unique model is illustrated, in 2+ period ads? SO... the way to make more PROGRESS on these models, IS:
A.) An UNKNOWN section, with top view+ images of all "unknown" models
B.) Scouring the net for more vintage display ads and postcards, etc.
C.) Taking up a collection to BUY $500.00+ worth of vintage ads, from one of several sources
D.) Taking up a collection to buy vintage watch crystal catalogs (I know the sources on those, ALSO...)
E.) Buying up 1920s - 60s +/- NOS glass, to fit into collectors finds. (I have or know where to get' em...)
F.) PUT MORE EMPHASIS ON SOURCING THE ABOVE, etc... vs. ONLY MORE WATCHES!!! LOL...
:-) Scott
P.S. If anyone would like to take this task on, perhaps we can work something out (?) as I have little TIME (in 2011/12, anyway) and limited resources... but 1500 Bulova crystals, 30ish catalogs, 200+ mens model entries in Excel, 18 old ads (?) And thousands of Bulova watch images. Most ID'd and foldered... (i.e. At least 1000- 1500 hours invested, just in Bulova!!!) My time/funds went into ID tools and glass, not emassing timepieces... The two must MEET in order to be a "serious SLEUTH," IMO...
Case in point: I have most Hamilton catalogs (digitized) from late1920s- 1960... A collector emailed me last night, and I ID'sd his 1935 Hamilton "Caroline" is 10 minutes... Then added the crystal specs and found the glass, in under 30... So I'll get $14.95 IGP for my time... and he got photos of the model+ from the Hamilton catalog, and a fairly scarce glass crystal, for next to nada...
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Another tedious, patronizing lecture from Scott ("as par").
I have my approach, you have yours. You obviously have a problem with me and my watch collecting as well as my approach to making IDs. So, I have a suggestion--from now on, why don't you just ignore all my posts? Then you won't have to be irritated by me, and I won't have to read your inarticulate rants. I think that would save us both a lot of time and irritation.