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Bulova 1944 Alderman

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Manufacture Year: 

1944

Movement Symbol: 

Circle

Movement Model: 

10 AK

Movement Jewels: 

17

Movement Serial No.: 

-

Case Serial No.: 

4223932

Case shape: 

Tonneau

Crystal Details: 

Federal MT13-223 203

Additional Information

 

Rose Gold Case measures 38mm lug to lug x 25mm non inclusive of the Crown using Calipers.

Original Rose Dial shows Black printed Arabic numerals, Bulova signature and tracks. Hour and Minute Hands are Black Modern style and a Black Modern style Seconds Hand appears on a sub Dial fully obscuring the 6.

Double Date stamp on the Movement - X and O

Crown is signed Bulova.

Snap fit Caseback is Stainless Steel and stamped as shown.

Glass Crystal is N.O.S.

 

For those who enjoy their Bulova's shiney and pretty: As found in original condition.

.....how cool is the old Leather strap??

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bourg01
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Posted February 11, 2012 - 3:27pm

Alderman it is. Pretty hard to read that ad Fifth, pretty good call on that.

Gerard
Posted February 11, 2012 - 4:46pm

Love it , can I get a pic of the buckle on the band.

Trying to check out the ranger in the ad as well, first one I've seen in print.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted February 11, 2012 - 6:58pm

Gerard,

http://www.mybulova.com/sites/default/files/vintage_ads/1942-Bulova-ad-5...

1942 ad 5

The buckle is a square stirrup style, unsigned. - pic after the Watch is cleaned up and Serviced.

 

Gerard
Posted February 11, 2012 - 7:22pm

Thank you.

Daca102090
Posted February 12, 2012 - 2:14am

Are you sure on the Alderman and not the Stamford?

The Alderman looks to have another line in the case that also shows up across the top and bottom ends

where the Stamford doesn't.

bourg01
Panel Member
Posted February 12, 2012 - 7:52am

Stamford in yellow gold, Alderman in rose gold. It can be seen in the printed description for Stamford.

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted February 12, 2012 - 8:45am

Yup,

I had the Watch listed as the 'STAMFORD' initially, 'til I read the fine print.

Rose over Sterling Bezel Shawn hence the heavy Tarnish, as You had pointed out on another Watch I own.

It's a Bear to remove...

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William Smith
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Posted August 1, 2012 - 3:48am

So one thing I've noticed with various Alderman, most of the ones which match the two ads have 17 jewels and a USA movement.  War years, so made in USA as per subject watch inside case pic "sterling base".  Some of the "other" Alderman in watch DB have 15 jewel Swiss to USA movements (BXW) and most lack info on inside case back - to indicate if USA case. 

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FifthAvenueRest...
Posted August 1, 2012 - 4:16pm

15 Jewels would not be the 'ALDERMAN' IMO Will. We now have evidence that suggests this Case with a 15 Jewel Movement is the 'AVIATOR'.

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1945-Aviator-A-112

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William Smith
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Posted August 1, 2012 - 8:35pm

Fifth- you have NOS glass crystal as per Crystal Details: Federal MT13-223 203 
Wonder if we can check if this crystal package (or the catalogs) also list Aviator (and/or Aviator A, B, D) for this crystal (or same size crystal under another crystal ID'ing system).  Or we may be able to see if the unique model numbers for Aviator show up in some crystal catalogs/packages.  Right now it seems we have two Aviators in watch DB- one on a supposed hang tag ID; the second Aviator A doesn't mention how the name was chosen. 

William's (Scott) comments (snippet below) about   Alderman crystal in this record  :
"I just found (2) 40s Fulton "Alderman" glass... And despite that ID ad... the bezel openings are NOT quite the same! (Alderman vs. Aviator and Stamford.) "

Scoot also commented on crystals in this Alderman record :
"Aviator, Stamford:          CMT293       MU103-15,  RMU98       CMT2205 198      HMB220/3 198

Alderman (-1942)          MT298       MT2226 202      MB223/2 203 "