Bulova 1950 -Unknown

Submitted by David Shilton on March 14, 2010 - 2:05pm
Manufacture Year
1950
Movement Model
10BCC
Movement Jewels
15
Case Serial No.
50/49370
Case shape
Round
Case color
White
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Unknown Model-rsvp? Looks Military. Dial--seconds numbered.

Bulova watch
1950 Bulova watch
1955mercury
Posted April 6, 2015 - 3:08pm

In reply to by Geoff Baker

I agree with you Mr. Baker. I have some Watertites and Seabees and none of mine have case backs that match this one. They all have "Bulova" stamped on the case back, either on the outside or the inside.

jabs
Posted April 6, 2015 - 1:43pm

I still think Non-Conforming

bobbee
Posted April 6, 2015 - 2:21pm

There sure is some confusion.

I give five links to watches with two-digit date numbers-one of which is mine-and five or six digit serial numbers. The subject has no visible case back interior pics, so we can't judge it on that. The case back actually looks to have been ground down, possibly to have an engraving removed?

Two screw back cases, neither of which have pics where we can see the actual back of the case, only the inside.

The serial number is Bulova if we read it as the OP probably meant would be:

             50

         49370

Just like all the ones we can see, and that most gave three ticks for.

He probably did not expect this problem of a corrupted photo, so just put the serial in the root record as we see it!

bobbee
Posted April 6, 2015 - 2:26pm

Maybe these serial numbers don't look like Bulova because  they were made by the Star Watch case co, who supplied many waterproof cases to Bulova from the 1940's on?

Lots of these cases, but not all, had a star engraved on the back, a known SWCC logo.

Geoff Baker
Posted April 7, 2015 - 8:11am

Sorry Bob, I have to decide on what I see not what might have happened or what someone might have meant.

Non Conforming

bobbee
Posted April 7, 2015 - 10:31am

In reply to by Geoff Baker

Then can you tell me what you actually see that proves this is not a Bulova case? Just saying you don't think it is without showing any proof it isn't doesn't really work. Providing evidence for your opinion is usually the way we work, such as that great big heap of it I posted on page 1.

Having an opinion based on zero evidence for that opinion is not an opinion. It's a guess.

The dial, hands, movement and case all point toward this watch being all Bulova.

The only 'anti' is that forward slash between the sets of numbers. Case backs without marks on them invariably have them on the inside, a point regrettably undeterminable in this case as the only photograph showing this has gone 'toes up'.

Geoff Baker
Posted April 8, 2015 - 8:10am

In reply to by bobbee

Bob - in the process of identification I don't need to SEE anything to prove it's not a Bulova case. In our process I need to SEE SOMETHING to prove it is a Bulova case and I have not. Your conjecture as to what may have happened and what the owner of this watch meant doesn't meet my standard for proper identification. Our dB has many watches with Bulova movements, dials and hands but if they are not in Bulova cases we tag them as Non-Conforming as I currently believe this watch is.

Furthermore, my opinion is not based on zero evidence and is not a guess as you state. My opinion is based on the total lack of evidence that this watch is a Bulova branded case. I wish I could see the inside case back photo as well, but until I can, my judgment stands. I respect your opinion and ask nothing less than that you respect mine. The panel members have voted and this watch will be updated based on the majority.

bobbee
Posted April 7, 2015 - 11:11am

Pleas look at this Watertite case back on Jay Wilner's site.

http://www.antiquebulova.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=26

Although there is an engraving, you can still see that it is exactly the same as the subject's, the same notches for the case back tool and the multiple rings finish.

This watch is also posted with pics of the inside of the case back here:

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/watertite-1951-5578

The watch above by the way, you voted for an ID of Watertite although the pics were very fuzzy and you did not see the actual watch in one piece as you remarked upon, Geoff.

William Smith
Posted April 7, 2015 - 5:51pm

In reply to by bobbee

Jays watch in first link does have the tool notches. Is it a Star case or Bulova case?  

I can't get the second link to same watch on MyBulova to work.  It comes up as "page not found".  I'll look for it through main search, as the record may have been changed, and the link above is to older DB record format.