Bulova 1961 -Unknown

Submitted by rtwatches on November 28, 2019 - 11:09am
Manufacture Year
1961
Movement Model
11AFC
Movement Jewels
17
Movement Serial No.
-
Case Serial No.
93370
Case shape
Round
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Crystal Details
29.8 mm slip over
Additional Information

This is not a Surf King.  11AFC sweep seconds movement, 33mm diamater steel case, 9mm thick including the crystal.  I'm going to have this one serviced.  I can't find a model designation.

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neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 29, 2019 - 7:52pm

This one has me stumped. My first thought was that it was a model produced in Europe or "International"; however, the movement bears a 3 letter import stamp, meaning the movement came to the US without a casing. European produced watches don't have the US import stamping .

The case is marked "Swiss" but isn't stamped "Bulova". The markings are puzzling, as it has a "MO" date stamp inside back, as well as what appears to be a tiny M2 on the outside under the stamped number. It also seems to have 2 different potential serial numbers, one inside and one outside.  I suspect the casing and maybe the face as well are aftermarket; meaning the Bulova movement was installed in a replacement case made by someone else.

Pending further research, my thought at this point is

1961 Non-conforming (dating by Bulova movement date code)

Non-conforming is how we designate a watch that isn't all Bulova parts that doesn't correspond to any known model.

Reverend Rob
Posted November 30, 2019 - 12:51pm

'MO' is either a date code or the casemaker, but not seeing any match for this.

I have seen this before, the case is clearly Swiss and carries a distinctly Bulova date code, at least on the outside, which appears to be M2.

We've seen Swiss cased Bulovas that only carry the casemaker's mark before, this may be what this is. The presence of the import code may mean that the watch was imported to the US, despite being cased in Europe. 

I'm at unknown.

 

Kathy L.
Posted November 30, 2019 - 3:29pm

I am not finding anything for this one.  I am leaning toward Non-Conforming but Unknown would be fine if that is the consensus.

Geoff Baker
Posted November 30, 2019 - 9:45pm

Kind of tricky but I'm inclined toward Unknown as well. It's an interesting looking watch, I rather like the look of it.

neetstuf-4-u
Posted November 30, 2019 - 10:55pm

I'll go unknown as well if that is the consensus. There is the possibility based on apparent case date code  that it is a Bulova case. I find it curious that the case isn't stamped Bulova. I don't believe I have ever seen one from this era without it.

rtwatches
Posted December 14, 2019 - 1:55pm

Thank you for your comments.  It's an expensive case and dial for a low production item.  Has anyone ever seen a Bulova case constructed like this?

It's still with the watchmaker, he's sourcing a new set of hands.