Bulova 1962 Regatta 23

Submitted by neetstuf-4-u on December 5, 2020 - 4:42pm
Manufacture Year
1962
Movement Model
unknown
Movement Jewels
23
Case Serial No.
F829034
Case shape
Round
Case color
Yellow
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Here is a very interesting one I have never encountered. Yellow gold plated front loader that I received on the original tattered lizard band, which I replaced with an identical one as seen.

I scoured the database, ads and line books and found one reference to this watch in the 1962 Line Book BAWDO_148. It's the only reference to this case style that I find from 1960 - 1964 in ads or line books. It is described as waterproof with a stainless back, which I suspect is a misprint. Watch is all yellow plate and a front loader. It seems highly unlikely it would have had a removable stainless back or two watches in the same case would be produced the same year as waterproof, one a front loader and the second a back loader. Silver linen dial with gold indices, luminous dots at indices and hands. Quite surprisingly, everything still glows.

I hesitate to ever call a Bulova "rare", as they were mass produced; but have to believe this one classifies as very uncommon and is likely a one year wonder - 1962

1962 Bulova 23 "PW" A first for the data base.

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pw62linebook
neetstuf-4-u
Posted December 5, 2020 - 4:53pm

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Geoff Baker
Posted December 5, 2020 - 9:04pm

I will grant that this one could be a Bulova 23 but do not agree on it being a PW. I can't imagine that the line book misstated he case details on any watch.

neetstuf-4-u
Posted December 5, 2020 - 9:46pm

In reply to by Geoff Baker

I have seen a couple entries in the past; although I can't now say in which book, where partial descriptive text (one or two words) was crossed out and re-entered/ corrected by hand

Andersok
Posted December 6, 2020 - 7:33am

I have also seen the crossed-out hand-written corrections within the linebooks.

Here is an ad from 1964 for a similar model 23 PP, ref# 03349-Y, that does not includes any reference to a stainless back. I've not found this variant in the linebooks, but it is listed in the '64 pricelist.

1964Bulova23PP_Ad

Slight price increase, possibly for the band (vs strap on PW/QW). Different hands.

Also, the ref# 03349 was used for a similar Regatta 23, same case, different dial, no SS mention

Linebook158_1964_Regatta23J

I can not find any other support for the Bulova 23 'PW' to help with the stainless back question, but the same cases used in other variants do not have SS back.

I would be okay with calling this one Bulova 23 'PW'

neetstuf-4-u
Posted December 6, 2020 - 7:52am

In reply to by Andersok

Well done, Ken! Excellent follow-up research. I missed the '64 Regatta in the line books. By number 03349Y, it appears the ad you reference  also matches the Regatta series from the Linebook, or represents a name cross-over point, as it's also referred to as 23-PP in the ad. I wonder if the 23 "PW" (03347Y) became the post-1962 Regatta  with changes appearing to be face and band.

Based on models in the Db and ads, it appears the 23 series was pretty much gone after 1959/60, with remaining models (like this one) being renamed and absorbed under other names. This one is the latest I have encountered with documentation as a 23.

Andersok
Posted December 6, 2020 - 9:40am

In reply to by neetstuf-4-u

The 23 series looks to have been around until 1964, per linebooks, pricelists, ads.

Yes, that ref# was used for both Bulova 23 and Regatta 23, both also in the '64 pricelist, both with the same case, different dial.

All of these: 03347 - PW, 03349 - PP and Regatta J, were in the '64 pricelist at the same time.

JimDon5822
Posted December 6, 2020 - 9:12am

Seems to me like a 1962 Bulova 23 PW.  Is it possible the Stainless Back is gold plated?  The purpose of a stainless back is to prevent corrosion and irritants to the skin.  Don't see why it could not be plated.

neetstuf-4-u
Posted December 6, 2020 - 10:07am

In reply to by JimDon5822

I considered that, but after quite a bit of time looking at it with a 20X loupe, I don't think that there are any seams in the case. No removable back or bezel ring. A couple areas on edges that appear at first glance to be seams  look more like edge wear to plating under magnification. There is minor evidence of previous misguided attempts to pry in those areas. It appears to me that this is a split stem arrangement that can only be dis-assembled using a crystal lift.

Geoff Baker
Posted December 6, 2020 - 9:11pm

I too have seen corrections in the Line Books. By "misstating case details" I was suggesting that a one piece case would most likely not be described as a two piece case, that is a RGP case with a separate stainless steel back. There is no question that the watch presented is a one piece case. I note that the hands are also a match to the Regatta, to the 23

I'm leaning toward 1962 Bulova Regatta. 

gunnar
Posted February 7, 2023 - 12:53am

Neetstuf, I thought you might like to see that there is at least one example like the watch you've displayed.  This one, F828762,  was recently gifted to my Son from his Grandfather (my Dad). The watch was a retirement award to my Grandfather.  I'm definitely not an expert, but, to me, I would say the back is definitely integral with the case, so, it is a front loader. I signed up to this site for this post.  Hope you see it.