Bulova 1928 -Unknown

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Manufacture Year: 
1928
Movement Symbol: 
Square
Movement Model: 
5AP
Movement Jewels: 
15
Movement Serial No.: 
52253
Case Serial No.: 
8549093
Case shape: 
Other
Case Manufacturer: 
American Standard Bulova
Gender: 
Ladies
Additional Information: 

I recently came into posession of this Bulova ladies watch.  The inside back cover has the following inscription:  Bulova American Standard 14k Goldfilled   Pat. June10 1924   8549093.  It probably needs a good cleaning otherwise it looks in very good condition.  I'm wondering if it's worth servicing or if it might be of interest as a collectors' item.  Any information would be appreciated. 

The movement model might be SAP -difficult to make out.  It is a 15 jewel movement.

Thank you

 Thanks, Bob & Stephen for your input.  I'm still unable to find any marks to indicate the date except for something that looks like a three sided symbol (missing a side that would complete a square symbol) to the left of the screw below the winding screw.  The additional photo shows more of the other inscriptions -  Swiss - Four 4 ADJ. - 52253 - Bulova Watch Co.

 

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Bob Bruno
Posted October 7, 2010 - 7:15pm

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The watch looks great, I'm sure a collector would be interested in it. I'm a collector but I don't collect ladies watches. The movement # is 5AP.  American Standard is the name of the case manufacturer

Bob

 

 

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Stephen Ollman
Posted October 8, 2010 - 3:31am

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American Standard isn't the name, its just Bulova's way of indicating that the gold content in the case is to 'American Standard' for that period. This was before they introduced the marking for 14K Gold Filled or 14K Gold Rolled.

Also the watch isn't 1924, its more likely to be 1926 onwards. Kondor, if you remove the movement cover ring, you'll be able to see the date symbol which is currently half blocked.

Have a look at the Bulova date code chart to see what it is.

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Stephen Ollman
Posted October 8, 2010 - 5:56pm

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Its definetly a square = 1927.

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Bob Bruno
Posted October 8, 2010 - 11:01pm

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Stephen,  this watch looks to be a Miss Liberty to me. I compared it to the one listed on this sight and to the 1929 ad. What's your opinion?

Bob

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Stephen Ollman
Posted October 9, 2010 - 3:56am

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Similar shape, but the Miss Liberty has 6 triangle shaped blue saphires or green emeralds, 3 at either end. See Miss Liberty example

I've seen this one a few times before but am yet to find it in any ad.

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Bob Bruno
Posted October 9, 2010 - 8:20am

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I noticed the missing stones, but I thought that might be because this was an earlier model. Another Bulova mystery!

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William Smith
Posted August 6, 2015 - 4:58pm

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Yep the Square is there.

Also based on case SN, should be a 1928 date.

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William Smith
Posted August 8, 2015 - 1:10pm

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Typo in movement sn in root record. OP states 52253 in comments field, and picture confirms.  Changing Mvnt SN field from 55253 to 52253.

Also wondering if this is the typical case signature in 1928 models (Bulova American Standard 14k Goldfilled   Pat. June10 1924), or do we see this associated more often with those cases of 1927?  I don't remember, but there are watch records which suggest that some of the case serial numbers starting with "85" may show case signature characteristics of cases from 1927.

Alex
Posted November 7, 2015 - 8:35am

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Case serials starting with 854 are indeed indentified by me as part of a special range of numbers being part of 1927 given their case signature with "American Standard", the standard case signature of 1926 and 1927, and not "New York", as this was the standard signature for 1928. See more detail: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1mKgMZb4oRQUkt3VS1Yd0IzQUU/view?usp=sh...

I personally have this watch too and also my watch is of this special range, albeit starting with 960, but also with a 1927 movement. So we have here two identical watches, both with the exception serial numbers, one starting with an 8 and mine with a 9. I explained before that I dont know why Bulova did this. I just did the observation, studying 100's of watches. This watch is is the first time I see the same watch in both 8 and 9 series and feel this could somehow hold a clue for us to further unravel or explain for what I up to know have only observed, but don't understand.