Bulova 1939 Boone

Submitted by plainsmen on October 12, 2013 - 3:15pm
Manufacture Year
1939
Case Serial No.
9043548
Case shape
Rectangle
Case color
Yellow
Case Manufacturer
Bulova
Gender
Mens
Watch Description

Just picked up this what for the life of me looks to be a 1939 Phantom with original bracelet.  What is very much throwing me off is the sub-seconds on the dial.  No other phantom I've seen has that. The dial looks to fit the case.  The seller has the case measuring:  1 & 1/8 x 13/16 which I think = 28.6 x 20.6  which might match the phantom minus lugs = No picture of the movement yet to confirm matching year and series.  The bracelet is definately period...  I dunno though... we don't have a Phantom as late as '39 I don't think.

1939 Unk
Bulova watch
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Reverend Rob
Posted October 13, 2013 - 11:01am

It is possible we're seeing a very old dial and movt swap. 

DarHin
Posted October 13, 2013 - 11:36am

We can eliminate the Minute Man as it's a Tonneau shape.

It does appear to be a Phantom case. I wonder if the movement is a 7AP due to the sub-seconds.

We have several Presidents of this era, 36-38, in the DB listed as having both the 6AE, no sub-seconds and later the 7AP, w/ sub-seconds. Could the Phantom have also transitioned to the 7AP? The last ad we have for this style Phantom is dated to '39 and shows no sub-seconds though.

plainsmen
Posted October 13, 2013 - 6:25pm

Hrmmm.. you know in retrospect... we ran into the same thing with the "Knight" right around this year.  All the Knight ads showed no subseconds dial... but all the watches have them?

OldTicker
Posted October 13, 2013 - 7:22pm

Just speculation, but maybe the Knight with sub-seconds is not a Knight? and this one is not a Phantom...but something else that we still don't have a ad for?

plainsmen
Posted October 13, 2013 - 7:34pm

Yeah I'm with Unknown for now. And who knows... maybe Non-con once I gander at the movement.

bourg01
Posted October 14, 2013 - 10:45am

Nice find Jerin, I would say the band would rate " original" status but as for an ID,well I'm on the fence so I'll stick wih Unk.for now.

1955mercury
Posted April 7, 2015 - 9:58pm

I just ran across this 1941 ad for a Brunswick "A". I've never seen one before and I don't see one in the data base. Could this be the model Jerin has?

bobbee
Posted April 8, 2015 - 4:58am

We have another ad for this model, but not as clear or with the variant, great find bud.

I remember a thread with these models in some where, and I seem to recall that the lugs were hooded.

I think this subject watch is a Phantom with a movement/dial change, possibly from a Brunswick. We never got a jewel count for this one, but all Phantoms have 17, the Brunswick 21.

Here are ads for Brunswick and Phantom variants, found by Jerin.

http://s16.postimg.org/lw1z9ldnp/IMG_20150408_093847.jpg

William Smith
Posted April 9, 2015 - 2:25pm

So Bobbee and Merc, do you think Plain's watch may be a Brunswick (case at least)?