Bulova 1940 -Unknown

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case material; 10k yellow rolled gold

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haowan9723 1940 Bulova Unknown 09 13 2014
1940 Bulova watch
1940 Bulova watch
1940 Bulova watch
1940 Bulova watch
Posted August 30, 2014 - 6:50am

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1938 movement in a 1940 case. Thinking President with movement swap as this should have a 21 jewelled movement.

Posted August 30, 2014 - 7:31am

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haowan it would be good to know some dimensions of the case, how at measure the length (Lug to Lug)

I think President has at view larger case, moreover in addition to the number of jewels these watches have stainless steel back

Posted August 30, 2014 - 7:31pm

Does the omega symbol on the movement not mean it is 1940?

The case measures approximately 37mm (including lugs) x 21mm

Posted August 31, 2014 - 4:09am

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It does and it also means 1930, but we can rule that out. The movement may or may not be original to the case. Presidents of the period normally have a 21 jeweled movement, so that along with the date mismatch may suggest that the movement was swapped at some point.

Posted August 31, 2014 - 5:03am

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I think the President of this period has case 42-45 mm, 21 JWLS and full gold case (no SS case back). Is that so?

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Posted September 1, 2014 - 6:44am

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Sure looks like a Phantom case.  Measurements for this Phantom case are close to subject case measurements.  Could be a 1940 Phantom case, and when the movement was swapped, the sub second dial came with it.

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Posted August 31, 2014 - 6:36am

Yes jabs, this has the look of a Phantom with a sub-seconds dial to me.

Much too small to be a President, and not enough curve to the case either.

Posted September 1, 2014 - 4:44am

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Have we seen any adverts with a Phantom and sub dial? I thought that the two key elements of a Phantom was the lack of a sub dial and a 17 jeweled movement. Could be wrong.

Geoff Baker
Posted September 1, 2014 - 6:34am

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Hi haowan9723 - welcome to myBulova, it's a beautiful watch.

Stephen  I believe you're right about the Phantoms not having sub dial. The President case is thinner and longer, I measure mine at 44.8 x 19.4. I'm torn, not sure on this one.

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Posted September 1, 2014 - 6:46am

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yep, I don't see any Phantom ads or watch examples with sub dial.