Bulova 1931 -Unknown

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1.02
Manufacture Year: 
1931
Movement Symbol: 
Square Shield
Movement Jewels: 
17
Movement Serial No.: 
653959
Case Serial No.: 
1217441
Case shape: 
Stepped
Additional Information: 

This is not my watch. I was unable to upload the photos to the forum, so I entered it here. It is similar to the Lone Eagle III, but slightly different. What do you think? Is it a variation of the LE III or a different model all together? Thanks!

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WatchCrystals.net
Posted October 13, 2011 - 3:48pm

Hmmm... Are the crystal proportions approx. 25.4 x 16.7mm?

If so... then it's likely either the "Allerton," or "Edwin??" There are only a FEW "cut- corner rectangular" window bezels/crystals... from the 1920s and 1930s... 

 

Best :-)  Scott

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TdH
Posted October 13, 2011 - 4:05pm

I'll ask and find out for the crystal size.

bourg01
Posted October 13, 2011 - 4:50pm

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After a really close look, I think what we have mistaken as a hinged lug is merely the first link of the band  mounted outside of the hooded lug with longer pins so I'm still inclined to say it's an Ambassador of one version or another. Please take some time to compare the cases of mine and yours. I think Plains has a couple of these as well, not exactly the same, but almost identicle cases. I suspect there were a few different versions.

http://www.mybulova.com/watches/1934-ambassador-2560

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TdH
Posted October 13, 2011 - 5:27pm

Yes, I can see a similarity with the hooded lug look.

Daca102090
Posted October 13, 2011 - 6:16pm

On the comparison I posted, the gold band that you can see is attached with a spring pin and the two bars comping down from the hood are attached to each other in a fixed position.  Looks like by a pressed in place pin and they move together.  Definitely as in a hinged lug.

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TdH
Posted October 13, 2011 - 5:14pm

Ok, here is the answer I got: "yes on the crystal. we will not take more photos, sorry".

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Wayne Hanley
Posted October 13, 2011 - 5:18pm

The reason I asked to see the watch without the bracelet is that unlike the Ambassador, the end pieces look to be part of the bracelet rather than the bezel. If the bracelet were removed does it look like this watch below?

 

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TdH
Posted October 13, 2011 - 5:26pm

I've added a new first photo where you can see the underside of the case and how the lugs are.

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Wayne Hanley
Posted October 13, 2011 - 6:09pm

After enlarging a picture of the front of the case, there is evidence of a sloppy solder job in an attempt to attach the bottom bezels of an ambassador case. I suspect somebody did a custom one-of-a-kind WoolyBully on this watch.

I think that Fifth has a watch model like this with XI bezel pattern that we think is a transition or prototype of the Lone Eagle III, but Bulova decided to go with the diamond dot pattern instead. 

 

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Posted October 13, 2011 - 6:19pm

I'm looking at this gap.

Wayne,

Have You ever seen a single X pattern like on this bezel??