Bulova 1948 Arnold

3/10 votes
Model ID rating explained.
2.67
Manufacture Year: 
1948
Movement Symbol: 
47
Movement Model: 
10BC
Movement Jewels: 
15
Case Serial No.: 
8681503
Case shape: 
Round
Additional Information: 

Case is a re-dial and a poor one at that. Bracelet looks to be original to watch and  is marked HADLEY. Watch runs very well and will require one more adjustment to be right on time. Watch has been dis-assembled and cleaned and re-assembled and oiled. Numerals are raissed gilt and watch has no minute or hour track nor a seconds track. Hands are gilt modern.

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bourg01
Posted August 13, 2012 - 12:34pm

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I'm good with " Arnold " regardless of the dial.

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William Smith
Posted August 13, 2012 - 2:51pm

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Only one Arnold model (w/o variant designation) listed in the lists, but that doesn't mean much.  The lists are incomplete for many models/variants.  If something is "in" the list, I assume it exists.  The absence of something doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
 

JP
Posted August 14, 2012 - 5:45am

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This is one I am planning on having the dial refinished on and I will have it done to the Arnold appearance.

bourg01
Posted August 14, 2012 - 10:37am

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Request the "Butler" finish and send a picture that shows the register, sub dial and Bulova fonts.

mybulova_admin
Posted August 14, 2012 - 8:02am

Club 5000Panel Member

I doubt the dial is original. Missing the minute track and sub-second markers.

I'm good with Arnold for now.

JP
Posted August 14, 2012 - 10:16am

Panel Member

Thank you Admin et al

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Reverend Rob
Posted August 14, 2012 - 10:39am

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'48 Arnold with re-dial. Black is the most common H/A* re-dial colour and can hide many things, in addition to being the easiest way to go. 

 

*Half-Arsed

JP
Posted August 14, 2012 - 10:47am

Panel Member

Good things to know. Nothing HA about your help and logic Rob.

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William Smith
Posted August 15, 2012 - 3:40am

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An Arnold case with a poor black redial, and no ad or anything else to indicate it ever came in black.  Are we getting near non-conforming?  I think so.  Or are we thinking about a possible category Arnold Non-Conforming.  Since this category doesn't exist, I'm gonna go non-conforming.  Sure fits my understanding of why we have this category. 
I'm pretty sure this watch was never sold by BUlova looking like this....
I checked ten Arnold ads on site from 1941-1952.  Eight of the ten have slightly different dials, based on shape of numerals...but two ads - 1949 and 1950 - look like subject watch dial, as far as shape of numerals are concerned. 
1947 ad below.               1949 ad below.  Text is similar for both ads.  Subject dial on right.



My point here is subject dial could have come in the watch, and just been poorly repainted.

mybulova_admin
Posted August 15, 2012 - 7:11am

Club 5000Panel Member

Still an Arnold for me. Non-conforming woud be more sticking a known dial and movement from another watch into the case. Everything looks correct, except the repaint.